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anecdotally, I was approached for a lead role with Lego pre-pandemic. Very high expectations for role/responsibilities and technical prowess. Very low remunera

anecdotally, I was approached for a lead role with Lego pre-pandemic. Very high expectations for role/responsibilities and technical prowess. Very low remuneration on offer. And that was before rates and salaries shot through the roof post-pandemic. Unless that's changed, and given the seeming lack of remote roles, I will be shocked if they meet this goal without most all new hires being junior outsourced/offshore resource.

bombcar 4y ago
LEGO is a bit used to paying skilled modelers lower than average because "you're being paid to play with LEGO" - perhaps they expect this would extend to software development.
- DoingIsLearning 4y ago
  Probably more to do with the salary expectations in Denmark. Most of Europe is for a multitude of reasons still expecting to treat software as a cost centre. The expectation of an IC making as much as a Director of <insert corporate department> is unthinkable to HR, even though the market worldwide is shifting exactly in that direction.
  - locallost 4y ago
    Don't know about Denmark, but I can confirm for Germany. I think the main reason is that in contrast to e.g. the US, software people don't innovate that much, the economy is not geared toward companies that have unlimited potential, and where having good software developers is a difference in billions if not trillions. Therefore they are valued a lot less. Would love to hear what you think the reasons are.
    - mathverse 4y ago
      The reason is huge taxes. Earning 90k eur in Copenhagen nets you just 47k!!!
      - marvin 4y ago
        You'd have to be pretty senior in Copenhagen to earn 90,000 euros, no? As in, staff/principal engineer level?
        mathverse 4y ago
        Not really. Senior developer (C#).
    - tse42 4y ago
      I work for a German company from an Anglo country that pays software engineers well, so they have to pay market rates here. I was embarrassed to find out I was being paid more than my more senior colleague from Germany, not even taking tax into account yet. He could double his net total comp simply by moving here and doing the same role as he does now.
MadsRC 4y ago
Lack of remote roles will definitely be a problem for them. They WANT people in the office. They just opened up nla new Copenhagen office and opened up their corporate headquarters in Billund. They are also the largest real-estate holder (or, their owners Kirkbi is) in Billund - They pretty much own the entire city.

bombcar 4y ago

LEGO is a bit used to paying skilled modelers lower than average because "you're being paid to play with LEGO" - perhaps they expect this would extend to software development.

DoingIsLearning 4y ago
Probably more to do with the salary expectations in Denmark. Most of Europe is for a multitude of reasons still expecting to treat software as a cost centre. The expectation of an IC making as much as a Director of <insert corporate department> is unthinkable to HR, even though the market worldwide is shifting exactly in that direction.
- locallost 4y ago
  Don't know about Denmark, but I can confirm for Germany. I think the main reason is that in contrast to e.g. the US, software people don't innovate that much, the economy is not geared toward companies that have unlimited potential, and where having good software developers is a difference in billions if not trillions. Therefore they are valued a lot less. Would love to hear what you think the reasons are.
  - mathverse 4y ago
    The reason is huge taxes. Earning 90k eur in Copenhagen nets you just 47k!!!
    - marvin 4y ago
      You'd have to be pretty senior in Copenhagen to earn 90,000 euros, no? As in, staff/principal engineer level?
      - mathverse 4y ago
        Not really. Senior developer (C#).
  - tse42 4y ago
    I work for a German company from an Anglo country that pays software engineers well, so they have to pay market rates here. I was embarrassed to find out I was being paid more than my more senior colleague from Germany, not even taking tax into account yet. He could double his net total comp simply by moving here and doing the same role as he does now.

MadsRC 4y ago

Lack of remote roles will definitely be a problem for them. They WANT people in the office. They just opened up nla new Copenhagen office and opened up their corporate headquarters in Billund. They are also the largest real-estate holder (or, their owners Kirkbi is) in Billund - They pretty much own the entire city.