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also - any French or British imperialist intentions toward any territory in Europe are gone since Napoleon (and UK had none toward Europe). At the same time, So

also - any French or British imperialist intentions toward any territory in Europe are gone since Napoleon (and UK had none toward Europe). At the same time, Soviet Union, which just took over the zarist empire, only ended 30 years ago. You can totally see from Russian propaganda that they are still looking at re-instating Soviet Union/zar empire. I see this as pure soviet/zar/russian/nationalist revenge.

wongarsu 4y ago
Napoleon died in 1821. For French ambitions on German territory alone there was the Rhine crisis of 1840 [1], the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 [2], followed by French Revanchism [3] over the loss of Alsace-Lorraine, which they regained in WWI with the Treaty of Versailles. In 1923 there was the Occupation of the Ruhr [4]. Then in the aftermath of WWII France tried to take the Saar Protectorate, but with the EU slowly taking shape with the formation of the ECSC and the EEC instead a referendum happened and the territory went back to Germany. Maybe notions of owning all of Europe ceased with Napoleon, but France trying to extend its borders Eastwards was happening right until the EU took shape. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine_crisis 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism 4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr 5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Protectorate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Protectorate
- martin_a 4y ago
  > but France trying to extend its borders Eastwards was happening right until the EU took shape. Same could be said for Germany and West expansions. Thankfully a thing of the past right now.
- thinkindie 4y ago
  We are talking about a couple of regions that historically have been through both ruling. Napoleon occupied or subjugated entire countries by installing puppet regimes.

wongarsu 4y ago

Napoleon died in 1821. For French ambitions on German territory alone there was the Rhine crisis of 1840 [1], the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 [2], followed by French Revanchism [3] over the loss of Alsace-Lorraine, which they regained in WWI with the Treaty of Versailles. In 1923 there was the Occupation of the Ruhr [4]. Then in the aftermath of WWII France tried to take the Saar Protectorate, but with the EU slowly taking shape with the formation of the ECSC and the EEC instead a referendum happened and the territory went back to Germany. Maybe notions of owning all of Europe ceased with Napoleon, but France trying to extend its borders Eastwards was happening right until the EU took shape. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine_crisis 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism 4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr 5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Protectorate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Protectorate

martin_a 4y ago
> but France trying to extend its borders Eastwards was happening right until the EU took shape. Same could be said for Germany and West expansions. Thankfully a thing of the past right now.
thinkindie 4y ago
We are talking about a couple of regions that historically have been through both ruling. Napoleon occupied or subjugated entire countries by installing puppet regimes.