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> They're going to ruin team dynamics. And seriously, make sure these people aren't assholes. I’ve worked with a number of X-FANNGers, and interviewed at a cou

> They're going to ruin team dynamics. And seriously, make sure these people aren't assholes. I’ve worked with a number of X-FANNGers, and interviewed at a couple places that were predominantly run by them. Your comment brought up some unsavoury memories. When I research places to work now, if any of the main people are X-FANNG I politely decline the opportunity - it just saves everyone’s time.

Apocryphon 4y ago
FANNG is a completely arbitrary phrase. What about Microsoft? Why Netflix and not Hulu, HBO, Disney? What about Uber, Lyft, AirBnB, and so on? Twitter?
- rockbruno 4y ago
  It's definitely an outdated term. Nowadays I personally use FAANG as an alias to "tech company in which employment is synonymous with status in the tech community"
  - willis936 4y ago
    I would suggest "Fortune 500 Technology sector" but that captures a lot of companies that don't have an emphasis on software.
  - aaomidi 4y ago
    Effectively Yes. I felt like I don't really need to clarify that this includes more than what the literal FAANG is to this audience haha.
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      But using it in such a sense lacks clarity. Would it better to say any "non-startup tech company"?
- gumby 4y ago
  It’s just a fun synecdoche. Netflix was included to make the acronym fun. It’s like when some people say “Silicon Valley” when they mean San Francisco or vice versa: from a distance they look like the same thing.
- selcuka 4y ago
  > MANAMANA incorporates eight consumer technology companies ranging from $300 billion in market capitalization (Netflix) up to $2.5 trillion (Microsoft). [1] [1] https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/05/faang-is-dead-long-live-manamana/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/05/faang-is-dead-long...
mhitza 4y ago
I'm glad I'm not the only with this view. I've even refrained from stating such statements in the past on HN. While I wouldn't go to your extent just yet, I'm on the sample size of 2 large projects. Projects where ex-Googler's were in technical/team lead positions, and those two were the flakiest, bikesheddy and glacially moving of all projects I've worked on. I'm sure they're familiar with good sturdy systems from Google and wanted to replicate it within other organization they got hired into, but without high upfront investment to build a Google-like infrastructure (with assumingly Google internal-like tooling) the projects turned out into a mess of multiple very fragile scattered components. Both in terms of actual project code, and infrastructure systems.
Dave3of5 4y ago
I've interviewed with an ex FANNG employee and it was an intense / chaotic interview. A wholly unpleasant experience that felt a little like what happens to people when they get involved in a cult. Lots of personal questions about attitude, what you do in your spare time, how you feel about things that bordered on the illegal. I was personally intimidated by the process and in the end they never even bothered to contacted me back. I think if I see this again I will pass but unfortunately I was never told this chap was going to interview me until I was in the office shaking his bloody hand. Maybe they wanted to keep it secret for this exact reason.
- singron 4y ago
  I'm not sure what FANG they were from, but Google doesn't have a behavioral interview so they didn't learn that there. Every non-FANG I've interviewed at has had a behavioral interview.
  - bradstewart 4y ago
    Huh? Maybe there wasn't a officially-labeled "behavioral interview" on the schedule, but the vast majority of interviews I had with Google in the past included behavioral questions/discussions/etc.
  - Dave3of5 4y ago
    > Google doesn't have a behavioral interview Huh? That's absolutely false. FYI this dude wasn't just ex-google he was ex-facebook and ex-google (worked at both). He was a Product Manager and then I think some VP of something. He was like a VP at the the parent company of the company I was interviewing for. FAANG stand for: "Facebook (now Meta), Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google (now Alphabet)". Looking at the questions I suspect these came from facebook but were altered. I even asked the next interviewer (the one I was actually told I was being interviewed by) that I found the questions strange and he agreed and said that the guy was kind "out there".
  - BeetleB 4y ago
    They do now - as in a whole session just with behavioral questions. You're told about it up front.
nokya 4y ago
Same here. I actually avoid them as customers, but I guess that works, too :)

Apocryphon 4y ago

FANNG is a completely arbitrary phrase. What about Microsoft? Why Netflix and not Hulu, HBO, Disney? What about Uber, Lyft, AirBnB, and so on? Twitter?

rockbruno 4y ago
It's definitely an outdated term. Nowadays I personally use FAANG as an alias to "tech company in which employment is synonymous with status in the tech community"
- willis936 4y ago
  I would suggest "Fortune 500 Technology sector" but that captures a lot of companies that don't have an emphasis on software.
- aaomidi 4y ago
  Effectively Yes. I felt like I don't really need to clarify that this includes more than what the literal FAANG is to this audience haha.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    But using it in such a sense lacks clarity. Would it better to say any "non-startup tech company"?
gumby 4y ago
It’s just a fun synecdoche. Netflix was included to make the acronym fun. It’s like when some people say “Silicon Valley” when they mean San Francisco or vice versa: from a distance they look like the same thing.
selcuka 4y ago
> MANAMANA incorporates eight consumer technology companies ranging from $300 billion in market capitalization (Netflix) up to $2.5 trillion (Microsoft). [1] [1] https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/05/faang-is-dead-long-live-manamana/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/05/faang-is-dead-long...

mhitza 4y ago

I'm glad I'm not the only with this view. I've even refrained from stating such statements in the past on HN. While I wouldn't go to your extent just yet, I'm on the sample size of 2 large projects. Projects where ex-Googler's were in technical/team lead positions, and those two were the flakiest, bikesheddy and glacially moving of all projects I've worked on. I'm sure they're familiar with good sturdy systems from Google and wanted to replicate it within other organization they got hired into, but without high upfront investment to build a Google-like infrastructure (with assumingly Google internal-like tooling) the projects turned out into a mess of multiple very fragile scattered components. Both in terms of actual project code, and infrastructure systems.

Dave3of5 4y ago

I've interviewed with an ex FANNG employee and it was an intense / chaotic interview. A wholly unpleasant experience that felt a little like what happens to people when they get involved in a cult. Lots of personal questions about attitude, what you do in your spare time, how you feel about things that bordered on the illegal. I was personally intimidated by the process and in the end they never even bothered to contacted me back. I think if I see this again I will pass but unfortunately I was never told this chap was going to interview me until I was in the office shaking his bloody hand. Maybe they wanted to keep it secret for this exact reason.

singron 4y ago
I'm not sure what FANG they were from, but Google doesn't have a behavioral interview so they didn't learn that there. Every non-FANG I've interviewed at has had a behavioral interview.
- bradstewart 4y ago
  Huh? Maybe there wasn't a officially-labeled "behavioral interview" on the schedule, but the vast majority of interviews I had with Google in the past included behavioral questions/discussions/etc.
- Dave3of5 4y ago
  > Google doesn't have a behavioral interview Huh? That's absolutely false. FYI this dude wasn't just ex-google he was ex-facebook and ex-google (worked at both). He was a Product Manager and then I think some VP of something. He was like a VP at the the parent company of the company I was interviewing for. FAANG stand for: "Facebook (now Meta), Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google (now Alphabet)". Looking at the questions I suspect these came from facebook but were altered. I even asked the next interviewer (the one I was actually told I was being interviewed by) that I found the questions strange and he agreed and said that the guy was kind "out there".
- BeetleB 4y ago
  They do now - as in a whole session just with behavioral questions. You're told about it up front.

nokya 4y ago

Same here. I actually avoid them as customers, but I guess that works, too :)