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it’s an implication he’s a nazi

by hasmolo 4y ago

skippyboxedhero 4y ago
Wait until he finds out where most people in the US came from...big twist incoming.
- TapWaterBandit 4y ago
  How so? Most people in the USA are descendants from the British Isles (including Ireland).
  - skippyboxedhero 4y ago
    Nowhere close to it. The early migrants were from Britain but they were vastly outnumbered by later migrants in the 19th century who came in their millions. Just generally, the reason why people left Britain in the 17th century was of excess labour/crushing poverty. The English Civil War increased mortality so that by the end of the 17th century, few were willing to leave (which led to a change in labour supply for the US of some significance). Migration increased, again, in the early 19th century due to some fairly harsh recessions in textiles employment...but people fled Italy, Ireland, and Germany in far larger numbers because the economic issues there were more severe: crushing poverty, massive overpopulation, no economic opportunity or way to sustain life. Just quantitatively though, I suppose Mexico is probably close to the biggest actual migrant flow...although that largely reflects the fact that the population is bigger than it was in 1850.
mastazi 4y ago
Which is by the way impossible due to the timing (he was born in Brazil 100 years ago hence his parents must have migrated there before Hitler took power in 1933)
mattkrause 4y ago
But, unless you know something that wasn't in the article, a scurrilous one. To be born in Brazil in 1922, his parents must have moved at least a decade before Hilter had any sort of power. Nazis fled to Brazil because there was already a large German community there.
- skippyboxedhero 4y ago
  And Germans are actually all over South America. Chile, Peru, etc. And North America too (I believe Germans make up the largest migrant group to the US, although what areas that includes is obviously somewhat controversial as Germany didn't exist until 1871 and it's borders have changed dramatically over the years..it is the largest self-reported ancestry group in the US at least, although I suspect that include lots of what is now Poland). Ironically, given the context of the accusation, many of these migrants to South America were Jewish. But many were not, many were Christians looking to start millenarian communities, many were looking to flee the poverty or lack of land, a new life, whatever. Remember too that Argentina in 1900 was richer than the US. South America seemed like the next big thing. Times change.
thedays 4y ago
This is a ridiculous accusation. He was born in Brazil in 1922, got his first job in Brazil in 1938 and seems to have lived in Brazil his entire life. Hitler became chancellor of Germany in 1933.

it’s an implication he’s a nazi

skippyboxedhero 4y ago

Wait until he finds out where most people in the US came from...big twist incoming.

TapWaterBandit 4y ago
How so? Most people in the USA are descendants from the British Isles (including Ireland).
- skippyboxedhero 4y ago
  Nowhere close to it. The early migrants were from Britain but they were vastly outnumbered by later migrants in the 19th century who came in their millions. Just generally, the reason why people left Britain in the 17th century was of excess labour/crushing poverty. The English Civil War increased mortality so that by the end of the 17th century, few were willing to leave (which led to a change in labour supply for the US of some significance). Migration increased, again, in the early 19th century due to some fairly harsh recessions in textiles employment...but people fled Italy, Ireland, and Germany in far larger numbers because the economic issues there were more severe: crushing poverty, massive overpopulation, no economic opportunity or way to sustain life. Just quantitatively though, I suppose Mexico is probably close to the biggest actual migrant flow...although that largely reflects the fact that the population is bigger than it was in 1850.

mastazi 4y ago

Which is by the way impossible due to the timing (he was born in Brazil 100 years ago hence his parents must have migrated there before Hitler took power in 1933)

mattkrause 4y ago

But, unless you know something that wasn't in the article, a scurrilous one. To be born in Brazil in 1922, his parents must have moved at least a decade before Hilter had any sort of power. Nazis fled to Brazil because there was already a large German community there.

skippyboxedhero 4y ago
And Germans are actually all over South America. Chile, Peru, etc. And North America too (I believe Germans make up the largest migrant group to the US, although what areas that includes is obviously somewhat controversial as Germany didn't exist until 1871 and it's borders have changed dramatically over the years..it is the largest self-reported ancestry group in the US at least, although I suspect that include lots of what is now Poland). Ironically, given the context of the accusation, many of these migrants to South America were Jewish. But many were not, many were Christians looking to start millenarian communities, many were looking to flee the poverty or lack of land, a new life, whatever. Remember too that Argentina in 1900 was richer than the US. South America seemed like the next big thing. Times change.

thedays 4y ago

This is a ridiculous accusation. He was born in Brazil in 1922, got his first job in Brazil in 1938 and seems to have lived in Brazil his entire life. Hitler became chancellor of Germany in 1933.