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> Not everyone has the ability to use school as such a filter I haven’t thought about this. Thank for giving me this perspective. > trying to find like-minded

by rg111 4y ago

> Not everyone has the ability to use school as such a filter I haven’t thought about this. Thank for giving me this perspective. > trying to find like-minded people in the real world I personally find people who base their identity on some number pretty boring. High IQ enables you to be better at other things, and that is where I would look for like minded people. > modern internet This is such a broad term. To the point of being meaningless in most discussions. Tiktok popular feed is modern internet. A niche programming language's Discord with 400 members is also modern internet. Saying something categorically about "modern internet" is like judging the highway system or rail network. > irony of people disparaging the idea of a group based around IQ If some community finds IQ -based signalling and IQ-based identity, it should be HN. Such a test does not measure a person’s true potential or intelligence. It's kinda stupid to base someone's ability or potential around some test. I love to be with and spend time with intelligent people, but whenever I see someone dropping their IQ or writing it on their social bios, I find it outright distasteful. It means you have little achievement beyond the IQ test score. That would be a pathetic life. Truly successful people- never seen them flaunt IQ- ever.

hackinthebochs 4y ago
Your derision seems to be narrowly focused on IQ as a filter for its own sake. But it's not that an IQ filter is valuable as an IQ filter, but that it correlates with other traits that might be valuable to someone. But filtering is hard. If you agree that a high IQ allows you be good at X, then first filtering for high IQ will get you closer to finding those highly skilled X's. Sure, you can just find people who are good at X directly, but this isn't always easy and its not like connecting with such groups is trivial once found. Being good at X may require a massive upfront investment that not everyone is in a position to expend. Besides, the value of such groups isn't just being connected around some narrow technical/high skill topic, but rather being able to connect with people who have unique and interesting views on a wide range of issues. Just being, say, a contributor to some open source project isn't going to get you that. > Saying something categorically about "modern internet" is like judging the highway system or rail network. The "modern internet" is in contrast to the internet prior to social media where finding intelligent people to discuss various topics was as easy as finding a newsgroup or a forum on the subject. The self-selection effect of the pre-modern internet on the quality of average discourse is hard to overstate.

by rg111 4y ago

hackinthebochs 4y ago

Your derision seems to be narrowly focused on IQ as a filter for its own sake. But it's not that an IQ filter is valuable as an IQ filter, but that it correlates with other traits that might be valuable to someone. But filtering is hard. If you agree that a high IQ allows you be good at X, then first filtering for high IQ will get you closer to finding those highly skilled X's. Sure, you can just find people who are good at X directly, but this isn't always easy and its not like connecting with such groups is trivial once found. Being good at X may require a massive upfront investment that not everyone is in a position to expend. Besides, the value of such groups isn't just being connected around some narrow technical/high skill topic, but rather being able to connect with people who have unique and interesting views on a wide range of issues. Just being, say, a contributor to some open source project isn't going to get you that. > Saying something categorically about "modern internet" is like judging the highway system or rail network. The "modern internet" is in contrast to the internet prior to social media where finding intelligent people to discuss various topics was as easy as finding a newsgroup or a forum on the subject. The self-selection effect of the pre-modern internet on the quality of average discourse is hard to overstate.