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> along with the Milgram experiment that people should lookup Don't bother, the experiment was so unethical it cannot be replicated properly. Furthermore, the
by robonerd 4y ago
> along with the Milgram experiment that people should lookup
Don't bother, the experiment was so unethical it cannot be replicated properly. Furthermore, the way it was presented to the public was deceptive; only some of the results were widely reported and some of those suppressed results draw into question the popular narrative of the experiments outcomes.
For instance, it is popularly claimed in undergrad psych classes that the Milgram experiments showed people comply with authority. But what is meant by authority is left unqualified. In the popularly described versions of the experiments, the authority ('the experimenter') presented themselves as a scientist and used appeals to the value of science to persuade the test subjects ('the teachers'.) What they never deigned to teach me in my undergrad psych class is the compliance rates fell when the presentation of the authority was changed, and also fell when the experiments were performed away from the context of Yale University in New Haven. This suggests that people don't blindly comply with authority; personal value systems play a role in determining how likely somebody is to comply with a particular sort of authority. This seems wholly unsensational to me; somebody who values science is more likely to comply with a scientist. Somebody who likes cops is more likely to comply with cops. And nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann enthusiastically complied with nazi authorities because Eichmann was a nazi (contrary to his claim of merely following any authority blindly.)
- sofixa 4y agoAs an aside, i recommend the book "Ordinary Men". It tells the story of middle aged reserve policemen that weren't indoctrinated Nazis ( and a non insignificant part of them were communist-sympathising dock workers pre-war) and their trail of atrocities in Poland. It makes a decent case that there's more to it than "was just a Nazi", even if really isn't "just followed authority blindly".