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This isn't the point the OP was trying to make and you know that. Lesson one: don't assume the worst about people and don't make hyperbolic arguments in order t

This isn't the point the OP was trying to make and you know that. Lesson one: don't assume the worst about people and don't make hyperbolic arguments in order to be "right". You might have more in-person success that way.

dleslie 4y ago
The point they were making was ignoring one of the groups of people that I mentioned, because in order to make their point they _had_ to ignore that class of individual. > > I'm naturally introverted, but when I say that to co-workers they don't believe it - because over the years I have learned to adapt. > > There are tons of things I can do now that I couldn't do before. Many of them are unpleasant. But they are necessary and without many of them I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am today. Good luck with waiting for the world to adapt to you. Some people _simply cannot adapt_. It is not a possibility.
- engineeringwoke 4y ago
  You can. All the answers are in your childhood, but you may discover things that you won't be able to forget
  - dleslie 4y ago
    ... No. Many people suffer from partial or full paralysis of facial muscles, neurological conditions that limit expression, and numerous other conditions that will forever and permanently limit their ability to engage in expressive body language.
    - engineeringwoke 4y ago
      but these are very rare things. The person you originally responded to did not mean anything against anyone who has these things. I've met many people in my life that were convinced they were unable to do things that they were quite capable of. Stephen Hawking was still quite expressive despite his limitations, although they did come later in life
      - dleslie 4y ago
        They ignored that class of individual in their response; individuals who exist and who I've personally worked with and do continue to work with. > Stephen Hawking was still quite expressive despite his limitations, although they did come later in life He's a fantastic example of why you don't need to rely on body language to communicate emotion and feeling.
        engineeringwoke 4y ago
        Sure, but have to understand that a limitation of language is that it doesn't convey perfect information. When someone says "anyone can do it", they mean that most people with full-blown "stuck in the house for years" social anxiety, can actually do it, and they meant nothing negative against those who are truly physically disabled. People summarize their thoughts when they speak and try to convey a picture that most people can understand; they are not trying to hurt anyone
        dleslie 4y ago
        When someone says "anyone can do it" I understand that to mean what they said, which is that they believe anyone can do it.
        frumper 4y ago
        Someone has clarified it twice yet you're still fighting the word "anyone" instead of trying to view it through a reasonable lens. If his point only makes sense because he excluded a very rare group of people, then your point only makes sense because you include a very rare group of people. Have some grace, be excellent to each other.
        dleslie 4y ago
        Their point only makes sense because they excluded a class of individuals that I mentioned in my original response. I have some grace; I'm willing to include those in my consideration that they have deemed unworthy of consideration.

dleslie 4y ago

The point they were making was ignoring one of the groups of people that I mentioned, because in order to make their point they _had_ to ignore that class of individual. > > I'm naturally introverted, but when I say that to co-workers they don't believe it - because over the years I have learned to adapt. > > There are tons of things I can do now that I couldn't do before. Many of them are unpleasant. But they are necessary and without many of them I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am today. Good luck with waiting for the world to adapt to you. Some people _simply cannot adapt_. It is not a possibility.

engineeringwoke 4y ago
You can. All the answers are in your childhood, but you may discover things that you won't be able to forget
- dleslie 4y ago
  ... No. Many people suffer from partial or full paralysis of facial muscles, neurological conditions that limit expression, and numerous other conditions that will forever and permanently limit their ability to engage in expressive body language.
  - engineeringwoke 4y ago
    but these are very rare things. The person you originally responded to did not mean anything against anyone who has these things. I've met many people in my life that were convinced they were unable to do things that they were quite capable of. Stephen Hawking was still quite expressive despite his limitations, although they did come later in life
    - dleslie 4y ago
      They ignored that class of individual in their response; individuals who exist and who I've personally worked with and do continue to work with. > Stephen Hawking was still quite expressive despite his limitations, although they did come later in life He's a fantastic example of why you don't need to rely on body language to communicate emotion and feeling.
      - engineeringwoke 4y ago
        Sure, but have to understand that a limitation of language is that it doesn't convey perfect information. When someone says "anyone can do it", they mean that most people with full-blown "stuck in the house for years" social anxiety, can actually do it, and they meant nothing negative against those who are truly physically disabled. People summarize their thoughts when they speak and try to convey a picture that most people can understand; they are not trying to hurt anyone
        dleslie 4y ago
        When someone says "anyone can do it" I understand that to mean what they said, which is that they believe anyone can do it.
        frumper 4y ago
        Someone has clarified it twice yet you're still fighting the word "anyone" instead of trying to view it through a reasonable lens. If his point only makes sense because he excluded a very rare group of people, then your point only makes sense because you include a very rare group of people. Have some grace, be excellent to each other.
        dleslie 4y ago
        Their point only makes sense because they excluded a class of individuals that I mentioned in my original response. I have some grace; I'm willing to include those in my consideration that they have deemed unworthy of consideration.