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It would be nice for more users or developers to take note of the philosophy of OpenBSD. Using FreeBSD as your base wouldn’t be my first choice.

nix23 4y ago
Have fun with partitioning...and ffs(2) ~aka ufs2
- teaearlgrey_hot 4y ago
  I know you’re joking around a bit, however I think this is a great example of an area that someone creative using the system could expound upon in a meaningful way. Things need not continue as they are!
  - nix23 4y ago
    >Things need not continue as they are! Well they are not in FreeBSD land, one could even use ZFS (in NetBSD too btw). Why use a OS when the dev are not interested in fixing that horrible partitioning in the first place...no thanks...oh and btw implemented UFS2/FFS2 a year ago, that really shows that OpenBSD is not interested in Filesystems (something i really care about) Not being against OpenBSD, but i have no interest working with OpenBSD since i already work with FreeBSD.
    - teaearlgrey_hot 4y ago
      I’m curious why you say you care about file systems? I’ve never noticed any difference using exFAT or NTFS vs. ext3 or ext4 and so on?
      - nix23 4y ago
        exFAT has no journal, so you feel the difference when it's already to late ;) >I’ve never noticed any difference Well, i don't know what to say, but you can read some of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System#Bibliography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System#Bibliography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS UFS SoftUpdates are a bit like journals and UFS has something like policies so you can change the "behavior" of the filesystem on the fly. With SU, UFS gained the ability to make snapshots (a feature ~normally just COW filesystems support) >A Brief History of the BSD Fast Filesystem by Marshall Kirk McKusick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbMBdGPoHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbMBdGPoHM ZFS has just too many feature's to write them down, but data integrity, compression, snapshots and an integrated volume-manager are surely some high-lights. And speaking about Linux Filesystems, there are some points that RHEL uses XFS and not EXT3/4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS

nix23 4y ago

Have fun with partitioning...and ffs(2) ~aka ufs2

teaearlgrey_hot 4y ago
I know you’re joking around a bit, however I think this is a great example of an area that someone creative using the system could expound upon in a meaningful way. Things need not continue as they are!
- nix23 4y ago
  >Things need not continue as they are! Well they are not in FreeBSD land, one could even use ZFS (in NetBSD too btw). Why use a OS when the dev are not interested in fixing that horrible partitioning in the first place...no thanks...oh and btw implemented UFS2/FFS2 a year ago, that really shows that OpenBSD is not interested in Filesystems (something i really care about) Not being against OpenBSD, but i have no interest working with OpenBSD since i already work with FreeBSD.
  - teaearlgrey_hot 4y ago
    I’m curious why you say you care about file systems? I’ve never noticed any difference using exFAT or NTFS vs. ext3 or ext4 and so on?
    - nix23 4y ago
      exFAT has no journal, so you feel the difference when it's already to late ;) >I’ve never noticed any difference Well, i don't know what to say, but you can read some of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System#Bibliography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System#Bibliography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS UFS SoftUpdates are a bit like journals and UFS has something like policies so you can change the "behavior" of the filesystem on the fly. With SU, UFS gained the ability to make snapshots (a feature ~normally just COW filesystems support) >A Brief History of the BSD Fast Filesystem by Marshall Kirk McKusick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbMBdGPoHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbMBdGPoHM ZFS has just too many feature's to write them down, but data integrity, compression, snapshots and an integrated volume-manager are surely some high-lights. And speaking about Linux Filesystems, there are some points that RHEL uses XFS and not EXT3/4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS