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It might seem exhausting, or annoying, or overly descriptive... but it is true and I find it hard to dispute.
by hbosch 4y ago
It might seem exhausting, or annoying, or overly descriptive... but it is true and I find it hard to dispute.
- richwater 4y agohow exactly does making people come to the office result in a more white workforce?
- bckr 4y agoWell, off the top of my head, black folks, asians, and latin folks might be more likely to be caretakers and/or further from the office. That said, if they have Apple salaries, I'm sure they can work it out. That said (again), they might need to spend more of that Apple salary than their peers to figure it out. So, it's a bold and unsubstantiated statement, but might have some truth to it. Idk, wish they would cite sources.
- agentdrtran 4y agoWhat source would one cite for this that's not just anecdotes?
- bckr 4y agoI can imagine a study could be done on the effects of WFH/WFO on minorities. That said, I wouldn't discount anecdotes if there were enough of them.
- greybox 4y agoIm pretty sure caretakers can;t work from home .... Also isn't it pretty racist /sexist to suggest that just because your black or a woman, you won't be able to commute?
- bckr 4y ago> pretty sure caretakers [can't] work from home Why not? > Also isn't it pretty racist /sexist to suggest that just because [you're] black or a woman, you won't be able to commute? I don't agree with the framing of this... The question is whether or not WFO would impact these folks more negatively than their peers, not that they wouldn't be able to do it at all.
- solenoidalslide 4y ago"Who is willing to relocate to the bay area or Austin in the first place? Who are the ones getting priced out? Demographics/census, speaking." I think that is the argument being made.
- bradlys 4y agoThey don’t work in tech though… So, doesn’t really make sense. People being priced out aren’t working in tech…
- burkaman 4y agoThat one does seem the most questionable. Looking at an ethnicity map of Cupertino, it seems like in-office requirements would favor white and asian employees, as they tend to live closest to the Apple office. The other items in that list seem pretty uncontroversial to me though.
- bradlys 4y agoWhite and Asian bias in tech has almost everything to do with candidate pool - very little to do with bias and preference for in-person work. People who are willing to work in tech and are in the US are overwhelmingly white and Asian. I mean - 70%+ of my current job is Asian. White is a minority. Black, Hispanic, mixed race, and much else is all less than 10% combined. Mostly due to candidate pool…