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Are people who are convinced by this logic aware that the vast majority of Apple employees don’t work in Apple Park and instead in extremely unremarkable office
by shuckles 4y ago
Are people who are convinced by this logic aware that the vast majority of Apple employees don’t work in Apple Park and instead in extremely unremarkable office buildings throughout suburban Bay Area?
- BobbyJo 4y agoIf you accept that there is some marginal benefit in getting employees together physically, (and as someone with a remote position, I certainly do) then I think the logic of "we already spent the money, get in here" has a degree of truth to it.
- brailsafe 4y agoI think if you frame that as an roi, the marginal benefit as a worker would really have to outweigh the cost. If I was being scouted by a company, which I'm not, the offer would have to be extremely compelling, because it's just not in me to commute and be on time for shit.
- bmitc 4y agoWhat are the percentages? Apple built Apple Park to not house the majority of employees?
- Dunedan 4y ago> Still, Apple will continue to be based in Silicon Valley, where it has about 25,000 employees, including 12,000 employees in its loop-shaped headquarters. [1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/apple-will-spend-1-billion-open-3-000-employee-campus-n1265401 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/apple-will-sp...
- RC_ITR 4y agoWould it surprise you to hear that, despite taking the mantle as the new HQ (because it’s the most impressive building) it’s just an incremental office build and people still work at one infinite loop?
- larkost 4y agoEven more than that. Most of the Silicon Valley employees of Apple do not work in either the Spaceship or any of the Infinite Loop locations. There are dozens of buildings around Cupertino and Sunnyvale (many quite large) that house Apple employees. If you just drive down Deanza Blvd you will see Apple sign after Apple sign pointing out those builds (and that is just one street).
- bmitc 4y agoYes, it does actually surprise me that a company would spend $5 billion for and tout the design as the second coming of office Jesus as an "incremental office build". I indeed did not realize that Apple Park wasn't the primary office building in that area, especially because of some of the articles that came out at the time. It's why I asked the honest question I did.
- RC_ITR 4y agoAnd do they ignore the fact that many of apple’s most important employees work in physically secured labs where physical device access is a major part of their job? Like sure GitHub can be remote top to bottom, but an insane amount of Apples workflow is prototype driven and those prototypes cannot physically leave their secure facilities. Hard to argue (from a retention standpoint) that those people need to come in full time but the Apple Music people can do whatever they want.
- twobitshifter 4y agoYou mean easy to argue? The lab workers would get no remote days per week due to their jobs. The workers who can be fully remote are being forced back.
- rendall 4y ago> many of apple’s most important employees What do you mean here, by "many", exactly? Kind of odd to argue that everyone should go to the physical office because "many" must, when, let's be honest, "many" here is probably less than 1%.
- jhenkens 4y agoI'm sure at a certain stage it is prototype, in secured buildings. But I have a friend who works at Apple full time remote (for a dozen years now) who routinely gets unreleased hardware at home to work on the software changes for. They is very intentional about only revealing stuff after it is public, which I think is still technically a breach of his NDA (revealing that they'd been working on it).