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Yup, it was a typo (edited now). I meant that if they want everyone they don't like to be banned, the fediverse doesn't seem like the place for that. Getting b

by hbn 5y ago

Yup, it was a typo (edited now). I meant that if they want everyone they don't like to be banned, the fediverse doesn't seem like the place for that. Getting banned from a fediverse instance isn't as impactful as being banned from twitter, and I think those people would want it to work like twitter. Not too sure about instances being defederated though, that's the first I've heard of that.

rapnie 5y ago
You can watch "Decentralized networks vs. the Trolls" to get a sense of how it works. Good video. https://conf.tube/w/d8c8ed69-79f0-4987-bafe-84c01f38f966 https://conf.tube/w/d8c8ed69-79f0-4987-bafe-84c01f38f966
kevingadd 5y ago
The biggest defederation example I know of (with the caveat that I haven't actually used Mastodon in years) is that when Pixiv launched their own instance it quickly grew to be something like the 1st or 2nd biggest instance in the network and was eventually defederated by many other instances because people were REALLY antsy about the fact that a lot of Japanese art on Pixiv is illegal in other countries.
- DoItToMe81 5y ago
  "Japanese art" is kind of underselling pornographic images of fictional children. Most forms of Japanese art, I presume, aren't of this nature.
  - kevingadd 5y ago
    Yeah, I meant specifically a lot of the content on Pixiv. It kind of is a self-selection problem because content that won't cut it on services like Twitter is allowed there since it operates out of Japan, so naturally their Mastodon instance will also be used by artists to post stuff they can't post on Twitter. fwiw while the underaged illustrations are the most objectionable part, there's also other stuff that could get you in trouble - for example, illustrations of ww2 nazi soldiers with accurate garb would run up against regulations in germany and put the operators of german fediverse instances at risk. There are a few high-profile japanese games that feature accurate ww2 uniforms, weapons, vehicles etc so if you end up with fan-art for those games on your service you will quickly need an answer for "what happens if content on the fediverse is illegal in germany"

by hbn 5y ago

rapnie 5y ago

You can watch "Decentralized networks vs. the Trolls" to get a sense of how it works. Good video. https://conf.tube/w/d8c8ed69-79f0-4987-bafe-84c01f38f966 https://conf.tube/w/d8c8ed69-79f0-4987-bafe-84c01f38f966

kevingadd 5y ago

The biggest defederation example I know of (with the caveat that I haven't actually used Mastodon in years) is that when Pixiv launched their own instance it quickly grew to be something like the 1st or 2nd biggest instance in the network and was eventually defederated by many other instances because people were REALLY antsy about the fact that a lot of Japanese art on Pixiv is illegal in other countries.

DoItToMe81 5y ago
"Japanese art" is kind of underselling pornographic images of fictional children. Most forms of Japanese art, I presume, aren't of this nature.
- kevingadd 5y ago
  Yeah, I meant specifically a lot of the content on Pixiv. It kind of is a self-selection problem because content that won't cut it on services like Twitter is allowed there since it operates out of Japan, so naturally their Mastodon instance will also be used by artists to post stuff they can't post on Twitter. fwiw while the underaged illustrations are the most objectionable part, there's also other stuff that could get you in trouble - for example, illustrations of ww2 nazi soldiers with accurate garb would run up against regulations in germany and put the operators of german fediverse instances at risk. There are a few high-profile japanese games that feature accurate ww2 uniforms, weapons, vehicles etc so if you end up with fan-art for those games on your service you will quickly need an answer for "what happens if content on the fediverse is illegal in germany"