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Given my previous, ongoing experience with receiving a product from Librem, will this also take years to be shipped after taking payment?

fsflover 5y ago
Since a few months, they have laptops in stock, so shipping occurs within 10 days.
jvanveen 5y ago
Still waiting on a Librem 5 from 2019, while the Puri.sm site claims it takes 52 weeks to deliver new orders. Draw your own conclusions.
- fsflover 5y ago
  Did you hear about the global supply chain problems? Even Apple suffers from that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/28/apple-earnings-fourth-quarter-loss-chip-shortages-slow-supply-chain https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/28/apple-ear.... (I am waiting for my Librem 5 too by the way!) Edit: Their estimate for the new orders comes from the information from the CPU suppliers, which say the same thing. Every time they can get the CPUs, they ship another bunch of phones. See also: https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/11272 https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/112....
  - wander_homer 5y ago
    Purism's shipping claims and estimates have been way way off even before there were any supply chain issues. At one point they even lied to be shipping devices, with pictures from the devices "in the wild", when it later turned out to be prototypes given to some employees.
    - fsflover 5y ago
      > Purism's shipping claims and estimates have been way way off even before there were any supply chain issues This is true, and they had good reasons for that in my opinion: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#87-why-has-the-time-to-release-the-librem-5-increased-from-17-to-39-months https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque.... > At one point they even lied to be shipping devices Yes, it did happen: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#66-what-was-the-controversy-over-shipping-aspen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
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- eptcyka 5y ago
  To be fair, I put down the money knowing that I might lose it and not receive anything. I ordered mine at the start of 2019, I do not have my hopes up.

fsflover 5y ago

Since a few months, they have laptops in stock, so shipping occurs within 10 days.

jvanveen 5y ago

Still waiting on a Librem 5 from 2019, while the Puri.sm site claims it takes 52 weeks to deliver new orders. Draw your own conclusions.

fsflover 5y ago
Did you hear about the global supply chain problems? Even Apple suffers from that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/28/apple-earnings-fourth-quarter-loss-chip-shortages-slow-supply-chain https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/28/apple-ear.... (I am waiting for my Librem 5 too by the way!) Edit: Their estimate for the new orders comes from the information from the CPU suppliers, which say the same thing. Every time they can get the CPUs, they ship another bunch of phones. See also: https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/11272 https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/112....
- wander_homer 5y ago
  Purism's shipping claims and estimates have been way way off even before there were any supply chain issues. At one point they even lied to be shipping devices, with pictures from the devices "in the wild", when it later turned out to be prototypes given to some employees.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    > Purism's shipping claims and estimates have been way way off even before there were any supply chain issues This is true, and they had good reasons for that in my opinion: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#87-why-has-the-time-to-release-the-librem-5-increased-from-17-to-39-months https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque.... > At one point they even lied to be shipping devices Yes, it did happen: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#66-what-was-the-controversy-over-shipping-aspen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
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eptcyka 5y ago
To be fair, I put down the money knowing that I might lose it and not receive anything. I ordered mine at the start of 2019, I do not have my hopes up.