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> Serious question - what's the difference? One is liking something that harms no one. The other is liking making fun of people who are harming no one, thus,

> Serious question - what's the difference? One is liking something that harms no one. The other is liking making fun of people who are harming no one, thus, to a minor extent, harming them. It's a pretty large difference to be completely blind to.

blagie 5y ago
Indeed. I'm not sure it's harming them to a minor extent. Getting picked on harms people to a large extent (especially kids). There's two options: 1) You did something really dumb, and now you're internet-famous for having done something really dumb. I care about this even if it was something genuinely bad. I'd like that to be handled with a justice system and not a mob justice system. 2) You do something a lot of people find obnoxious. You're really into some obscure sci-fi show, obsessively like Bulgarian folk music, only wear purple clothing, want Hello Kitty on all of your merchandise, or hold some non-mainstream political view. No one is going to individually ruin your life over it, but collectively, everyone shames you a little bit. That can be super-damaging too. I think we should be tolerant of most things that don't harm other people (the same goes geopolitically; if a foreign culture has different views on government / gender / religion / etc., we don't need to fix them). I don't think we should be tolerant of bullying (e.g. another country invading their neighbor). There's also a big difference between condemning people and things. My comment was that I hate a page and forum. I can do that without hate or condemning the person who made the page or the users of those forums. A person isn't defined by one dumb action. The linked page goes out of their to be mean to individuals who buy dice like those, or design them. I would have no problem with a product review page which said "These are bad dice." Dice (and web pages) aren't sentient beings.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  I agree with you in general, but the mockery in this article is pretty undirected and mild. If you actually said this at a gaming table where a new and, especially immature, player was using the dice in question; then this applies in spades.
_Algernon_ 5y ago
If you don't tolerate this level of being made fun of, you should probably stay in your moms basement. Calling the post harmful to any degree, is disrespectful of people actually experiencing harm.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  Bullies always fall back to “toughen up” when called out for their bullying.
  - _Algernon_ 5y ago
    A satirical blog post is bullying now?

blagie 5y ago

Indeed. I'm not sure it's harming them to a minor extent. Getting picked on harms people to a large extent (especially kids). There's two options: 1) You did something really dumb, and now you're internet-famous for having done something really dumb. I care about this even if it was something genuinely bad. I'd like that to be handled with a justice system and not a mob justice system. 2) You do something a lot of people find obnoxious. You're really into some obscure sci-fi show, obsessively like Bulgarian folk music, only wear purple clothing, want Hello Kitty on all of your merchandise, or hold some non-mainstream political view. No one is going to individually ruin your life over it, but collectively, everyone shames you a little bit. That can be super-damaging too. I think we should be tolerant of most things that don't harm other people (the same goes geopolitically; if a foreign culture has different views on government / gender / religion / etc., we don't need to fix them). I don't think we should be tolerant of bullying (e.g. another country invading their neighbor). There's also a big difference between condemning people and things. My comment was that I hate a page and forum. I can do that without hate or condemning the person who made the page or the users of those forums. A person isn't defined by one dumb action. The linked page goes out of their to be mean to individuals who buy dice like those, or design them. I would have no problem with a product review page which said "These are bad dice." Dice (and web pages) aren't sentient beings.

Ensorceled 5y ago
I agree with you in general, but the mockery in this article is pretty undirected and mild. If you actually said this at a gaming table where a new and, especially immature, player was using the dice in question; then this applies in spades.

_Algernon_ 5y ago

If you don't tolerate this level of being made fun of, you should probably stay in your moms basement. Calling the post harmful to any degree, is disrespectful of people actually experiencing harm.

Ensorceled 5y ago
Bullies always fall back to “toughen up” when called out for their bullying.
- _Algernon_ 5y ago
  A satirical blog post is bullying now?