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> It's also worth considering that reason and debate are not an especially useful method for arriving at truth. And this is why all those "XYZ is good/bad: deb
by adhesive_wombat 5y ago
> It's also worth considering that reason and debate are not an especially useful method for arriving at truth.
And this is why all those "XYZ is good/bad: debate me" arguments that make up so much of politics, religion and philosophy are so, so tedious. They do nothing to advance anything or find anything new.
- dredmorbius 5y agoThey may be useful as a training ground. Otherwise, I largely agree. The more I've dug into the history of philosophy, particilarly rhetoric, logic, moral philosophy, and many of the debates from religious, enlightnement, and modern philosophers, the more I'm coming to recognise ancient tropes which keep re-emerging in these debates. I'm not sure if that's deliberate or simply because the patterns are so wired into both human psychology and cultural knowledge and behaviour. But the exploration itself tends to be rather more illuminating than the debates, most of which retread not only the same ground but the same very basic methods and arguments. It's a bit like the old saw about the difference between ten years of experience, and one year repeated ten times.