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The deciders of the nation are even further removed from the population. If the state’s decision is egregious we have a constitution with amendments and other

The deciders of the nation are even further removed from the population. If the state’s decision is egregious we have a constitution with amendments and other federal laws. The federal government was incredibly limited prior to the civil war, and since then has only gained power and taken it away from the states. Our country was designed this way for a reason and I would personally love to return to it. If nothing else, different states having wildly different policies means that we can more easily see what works and what doesn’t.

verdverm 5y ago
One of the most important aspects of democracy is the ability to self correct, however this shakes out (really) long-term
- fastball 5y ago
  So you move to another state. Another one of the great things about the US.
  - Kye 5y ago
    At least until the state you're in outlaws running from the law you want to run from. This is not hypothetical.
    - verdverm 5y ago
      > This is not hypothetical. Then you should provide a link to a reputable source. Not sure how a state government in the US could pass this, let alone enforce it
      - Forgeties79 5y ago
        A cursory google search would've shown you that Missouri has already attempted this, and just like all the FHB bills/wild restrictions we've seen shot down over and over again (which will now be upheld) there is no way you could argue that they - and other states - won't try it again. [1] On a related note: Louisiana is about to pass a bill allowing murder charges for abortions. This bill also bars contraception options such as IUD's. It also impacts ectopic pregnancies, which are very common. [2] Make no mistake: the moment Roe v. Wade comes down the floodgates are opening, and you are going to have a hard time believing the bills some of these states are cooking up. [1] https://missouriindependent.com/2022/03/29/missouri-house-blocks-effort-to-limit-access-to-out-of-state-abortions/ https://missouriindependent.com/2022/03/29/missouri-house-bl... [2] https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-murder-charges-for-abortions-opponents-call-it-barbaric https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-m... https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-murder-charges-for-abortions-opponents-call-it-barbaric https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-m...

verdverm 5y ago

One of the most important aspects of democracy is the ability to self correct, however this shakes out (really) long-term

fastball 5y ago
So you move to another state. Another one of the great things about the US.
- Kye 5y ago
  At least until the state you're in outlaws running from the law you want to run from. This is not hypothetical.
  - verdverm 5y ago
    > This is not hypothetical. Then you should provide a link to a reputable source. Not sure how a state government in the US could pass this, let alone enforce it
    - Forgeties79 5y ago
      A cursory google search would've shown you that Missouri has already attempted this, and just like all the FHB bills/wild restrictions we've seen shot down over and over again (which will now be upheld) there is no way you could argue that they - and other states - won't try it again. [1] On a related note: Louisiana is about to pass a bill allowing murder charges for abortions. This bill also bars contraception options such as IUD's. It also impacts ectopic pregnancies, which are very common. [2] Make no mistake: the moment Roe v. Wade comes down the floodgates are opening, and you are going to have a hard time believing the bills some of these states are cooking up. [1] https://missouriindependent.com/2022/03/29/missouri-house-blocks-effort-to-limit-access-to-out-of-state-abortions/ https://missouriindependent.com/2022/03/29/missouri-house-bl... [2] https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-murder-charges-for-abortions-opponents-call-it-barbaric https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-m... https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-murder-charges-for-abortions-opponents-call-it-barbaric https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-m...