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> People focusing on the leak rather than what was actually leaked is testament to just how effective conservatives are at propaganda and messaging.. HN is foc

> People focusing on the leak rather than what was actually leaked is testament to just how effective conservatives are at propaganda and messaging.. HN is focusing on the leak, but I do not think the larger point here can possibly be missed. I think the male/female ratio here has something to do with the framing of the issue. Women tonight are not thinking about how the leak affects workplace relations between supreme court justices. I mean... my God, what are they going to talk about around the watercooler?

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- ModernMech 5y ago
  Excuse me, we're looking at a total abortion ban in half the country soon if this decision is to be the law of the land. This idea that it might be limited to a 3.5 month restriction is an old talking point that has been obviated by the news from the Supreme Court. If what was released last night comes to fruition, abortion bans predating Roe and trigger laws passed in the interim will bring full abortion bans into effect immediately. Currently candidates for State AG are campaigning on the promise they will enforce the ban in cases of rape, incest, and life-threatening health conditions caused by the fetus. How would it make you feel if your wife, daughter, or mother had to die because the government would not let a doctor perform a life-saving operation on them, on the basis that they had a moral objection to it?
  - emerged 5y ago
    You’re reacting to something which hasn’t actually happened. Even the 3.5 months thing hasn’t actually happened.
    - ModernMech 5y ago
      Not really no. It's functionally not possible to get an abortion in Tennessee now due to the laws they've been passing there. Also in Texas. Any perception that abortion rights aren't currently dissolving in this country will be laughably aged in a couple months. So sure, I'll save the majority of my feelings for when total abortion bans are actually in effect in 20+ states across the country in mere weeks. But let's not pretend that the writing isn't on the wall.

emerged 5y ago

ModernMech 5y ago
Excuse me, we're looking at a total abortion ban in half the country soon if this decision is to be the law of the land. This idea that it might be limited to a 3.5 month restriction is an old talking point that has been obviated by the news from the Supreme Court. If what was released last night comes to fruition, abortion bans predating Roe and trigger laws passed in the interim will bring full abortion bans into effect immediately. Currently candidates for State AG are campaigning on the promise they will enforce the ban in cases of rape, incest, and life-threatening health conditions caused by the fetus. How would it make you feel if your wife, daughter, or mother had to die because the government would not let a doctor perform a life-saving operation on them, on the basis that they had a moral objection to it?
- emerged 5y ago
  You’re reacting to something which hasn’t actually happened. Even the 3.5 months thing hasn’t actually happened.
  - ModernMech 5y ago
    Not really no. It's functionally not possible to get an abortion in Tennessee now due to the laws they've been passing there. Also in Texas. Any perception that abortion rights aren't currently dissolving in this country will be laughably aged in a couple months. So sure, I'll save the majority of my feelings for when total abortion bans are actually in effect in 20+ states across the country in mere weeks. But let's not pretend that the writing isn't on the wall.