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Unherd of before rulings, but this is the big one. But they’re just warming up. Obergefell v. Hodges, Affirmative Action… a lot of unwinding in the next genera

Unherd of before rulings, but this is the big one. But they’re just warming up. Obergefell v. Hodges, Affirmative Action… a lot of unwinding in the next generation. Remember, both sides are the same. /s

ceejayoz 5y ago
Lawrence and Griswold may be on the chopping block, as well.
- giantg2 5y ago
  I was just reading about Griswold. It was certainly interesting. I think I want to read the full opinion when I get time.
- bruceb 5y ago
  No. No state is going after that. People don't care enough. There are not significant anti gay sex groups.
  - hindsightbias 5y ago
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    It was explicitly banned in quite a few states less than twenty years ago, and Florida passed notable anti-gay legislation just last month.
    - rayiner 5y ago
  - cocacola1 5y ago
    Sure they'll go after it. There are people that believe that contraception is murder.
    - User23 5y ago
  - bullfightonmars 5y ago
    Gay rights and gay marriage equality was one of the top culture war issues that Republicans were fighting against from the late 90s until Obergefell. It’s a best hit. They will definitely bring it back.
    - bruceb 5y ago
      Now isn't then, then isn't now. There are no on going marches against gay sex or marriage. Abortion is a on going divisive battle that goes beyond most issues. This being said there are lot of R politicians who secretly hate this potential ruling. They want to say a few words about being pro-life, raise some money and thats it. They don't want the blow back of abortion actually becoming illegal.
      - the_only_law 5y ago
        > This being said there are lot of R politicians who secretly hate this potential ruling I’m getting pretty tired of watching what might as well be 4+ parities pretend to be 2.
- altcognito 5y ago
  The right to contraception folks. While it may seem farfetched in your neck of the woods, a lot of things seem farfetched until they happen.
- debacle 5y ago
  It sounds like this ruling is precisely based on throwing out Griswold.
rayiner 5y ago
Like Roe, Obergefell would be another decision where if the Supreme Court overruled, it would simply make the law the same as Europe: https://eclj.org/marriage/the-echr-unanimously-confirms-the-non-existence-of-a-right-to-gay-marriage https://eclj.org/marriage/the-echr-unanimously-confirms-the-... Likewise in affirmative action. You just listed three things where the supposedly arch conservative Supreme Court is simply making our law the same as France.
- hotpotamus 5y ago
  The difference is that the US is a country and Europe is not. Generally speaking it might limit your liberties if one state did not recognize your spouse and another did.
  - pdonis 5y ago
    > Generally speaking it might limit your liberties if one state did not recognize your spouse and another did. That would violate the Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution. Even before Obergefell v. Hodges, states that didn't allow gay couples to marry still had to honor the marriages of gay couples who were married in other states that did allow it.
    - hotpotamus 5y ago
      Was that ever actually settled before Obergefell? My memory is that it was undecided, and Obergefell ended it pretty decisively.
  - ryathal 5y ago
    Free movement in the EU makes that a distinction without a difference for the practical purposes though.
- thatfrenchguy 5y ago
  > Likewise in affirmative action. You just listed three things where the supposedly arch conservative Supreme Court is simply making our law the same as France. The reason abortion is not legal until 22 weeks in France is because the Netherlands allows it, and our left-and-center governments don't want to spend the political capital on it. Same stupid reason why Democrats haven't passed a bill since Roe vs Wade. That said, I would not want to be a Republican right now, giving people something stupid that they want is the best way to get to stupid-ass results.
dbsmith83 5y ago
I can't help but see a lot of people using /s for a strawman

ceejayoz 5y ago

Lawrence and Griswold may be on the chopping block, as well.

giantg2 5y ago
I was just reading about Griswold. It was certainly interesting. I think I want to read the full opinion when I get time.
bruceb 5y ago
No. No state is going after that. People don't care enough. There are not significant anti gay sex groups.
- hindsightbias 5y ago
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  It was explicitly banned in quite a few states less than twenty years ago, and Florida passed notable anti-gay legislation just last month.
  - rayiner 5y ago
- cocacola1 5y ago
  Sure they'll go after it. There are people that believe that contraception is murder.
  - User23 5y ago
- bullfightonmars 5y ago
  Gay rights and gay marriage equality was one of the top culture war issues that Republicans were fighting against from the late 90s until Obergefell. It’s a best hit. They will definitely bring it back.
  - bruceb 5y ago
    Now isn't then, then isn't now. There are no on going marches against gay sex or marriage. Abortion is a on going divisive battle that goes beyond most issues. This being said there are lot of R politicians who secretly hate this potential ruling. They want to say a few words about being pro-life, raise some money and thats it. They don't want the blow back of abortion actually becoming illegal.
    - the_only_law 5y ago
      > This being said there are lot of R politicians who secretly hate this potential ruling I’m getting pretty tired of watching what might as well be 4+ parities pretend to be 2.
altcognito 5y ago
The right to contraception folks. While it may seem farfetched in your neck of the woods, a lot of things seem farfetched until they happen.
debacle 5y ago
It sounds like this ruling is precisely based on throwing out Griswold.

rayiner 5y ago

Like Roe, Obergefell would be another decision where if the Supreme Court overruled, it would simply make the law the same as Europe: https://eclj.org/marriage/the-echr-unanimously-confirms-the-non-existence-of-a-right-to-gay-marriage https://eclj.org/marriage/the-echr-unanimously-confirms-the-... Likewise in affirmative action. You just listed three things where the supposedly arch conservative Supreme Court is simply making our law the same as France.

hotpotamus 5y ago
The difference is that the US is a country and Europe is not. Generally speaking it might limit your liberties if one state did not recognize your spouse and another did.
- pdonis 5y ago
  > Generally speaking it might limit your liberties if one state did not recognize your spouse and another did. That would violate the Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution. Even before Obergefell v. Hodges, states that didn't allow gay couples to marry still had to honor the marriages of gay couples who were married in other states that did allow it.
  - hotpotamus 5y ago
    Was that ever actually settled before Obergefell? My memory is that it was undecided, and Obergefell ended it pretty decisively.
- ryathal 5y ago
  Free movement in the EU makes that a distinction without a difference for the practical purposes though.
thatfrenchguy 5y ago
> Likewise in affirmative action. You just listed three things where the supposedly arch conservative Supreme Court is simply making our law the same as France. The reason abortion is not legal until 22 weeks in France is because the Netherlands allows it, and our left-and-center governments don't want to spend the political capital on it. Same stupid reason why Democrats haven't passed a bill since Roe vs Wade. That said, I would not want to be a Republican right now, giving people something stupid that they want is the best way to get to stupid-ass results.

dbsmith83 5y ago

I can't help but see a lot of people using /s for a strawman