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> most men are just not having sex in their 20s anymore This is misleading and seems to be trying to paint a picture of male victimhood that just isn't statist

by nl 5y ago

> most men are just not having sex in their 20s anymore This is misleading and seems to be trying to paint a picture of male victimhood that just isn't statistically supported. It's true that in the US people (both male and female) are having sex now than in the 1990s: > Between 2009 and 2018, the proportion of adolescents reporting no sexual activity, either alone or with partners, rose from 28.8 percent to 44.2 percent among young men and from 49.5 percent in 2009 to 74 percent among young women.[1] It's worth noting that less women than men are having sex, and the decline amongst women has been greater than amoung men. [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-have-been-having-less-sex-whether-theyre-teenagers-or-40-somethings/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-have-been-...

ZephyrBlu 5y ago
I really have to wonder if you googled something and picked the first result without reading it, because your source doesn't refute anything about the GPs statement that "most men are just not having sex in their 20s anymore". > The researchers obtained the self-reported information from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior and used responses from 4,155 people in 2009 and 4,547 people in 2018. These respondents to the confidential survey ranged in age from 14 to 49 years > ... > The decline in adolescent masturbation is interesting, and we were the first to include it. That one deserves a lot more attention 1) Includes adolescents and older people 2) Covers "no sexual activity, either alone or with partners" which is far broader than sex Here is an article with a link to a study that actually provides evidence related to the statement: https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub/releases/15-sexual-inactivity-young-men-united-states-no-sex-debby-herbenick.html https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub/releases/15-sexual-i... Study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=2767063 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... > The study [...] looked at the sexual activity and number of partners of 18- to 44-year-olds in the U.S. from 2000 to 2018. > During that time, the researchers found that sexual inactivity had increased from 19 percent to 31 percent among men age 18 to 24. Men and women age 25 to 34 also reported an increase in sexual inactivity during the time period. This coincided with decreases in those who had sex at least weekly and in those with one sexual partner over the past year, while the proportion of men and women with two or more partners in the past year had remained largely unchanged. It was 15% -> 19% for women age 18 to 24 in the same period. > More men than women reported having no sexual partner (16.4% vs 12.0%; P = .04) and 3 or more partners (14.5% vs 7.1%; P < .001), whereas fewer men reported weekly or more sexual activity (46.7% vs 53.3%; P = .02) and 1 sexual partner (57.5% vs 74.2%; P < .001). Differences between the sexes were most pronounced among those aged 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 years. The study also happens to provide evidence for the GPs argument that young women are "all dating the same guy".
bradlys 5y ago
> This is misleading Quotes a study that literally shows what I'm saying and tries to use 13-17 year olds sexual habits as an indicator of anything (which includes solo masturbation in the statistic). Did you even check what they also cited? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/ Proves my point. There's a lot more men who are not having sex than women in their 20s. These graphs shouldn't line up so insanely with the narrative otherwise.

by nl 5y ago

ZephyrBlu 5y ago

I really have to wonder if you googled something and picked the first result without reading it, because your source doesn't refute anything about the GPs statement that "most men are just not having sex in their 20s anymore". > The researchers obtained the self-reported information from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior and used responses from 4,155 people in 2009 and 4,547 people in 2018. These respondents to the confidential survey ranged in age from 14 to 49 years > ... > The decline in adolescent masturbation is interesting, and we were the first to include it. That one deserves a lot more attention 1) Includes adolescents and older people 2) Covers "no sexual activity, either alone or with partners" which is far broader than sex Here is an article with a link to a study that actually provides evidence related to the statement: https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub/releases/15-sexual-inactivity-young-men-united-states-no-sex-debby-herbenick.html https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub/releases/15-sexual-i... Study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=2767063 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... > The study [...] looked at the sexual activity and number of partners of 18- to 44-year-olds in the U.S. from 2000 to 2018. > During that time, the researchers found that sexual inactivity had increased from 19 percent to 31 percent among men age 18 to 24. Men and women age 25 to 34 also reported an increase in sexual inactivity during the time period. This coincided with decreases in those who had sex at least weekly and in those with one sexual partner over the past year, while the proportion of men and women with two or more partners in the past year had remained largely unchanged. It was 15% -> 19% for women age 18 to 24 in the same period. > More men than women reported having no sexual partner (16.4% vs 12.0%; P = .04) and 3 or more partners (14.5% vs 7.1%; P < .001), whereas fewer men reported weekly or more sexual activity (46.7% vs 53.3%; P = .02) and 1 sexual partner (57.5% vs 74.2%; P < .001). Differences between the sexes were most pronounced among those aged 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 years. The study also happens to provide evidence for the GPs argument that young women are "all dating the same guy".

bradlys 5y ago

> This is misleading Quotes a study that literally shows what I'm saying and tries to use 13-17 year olds sexual habits as an indicator of anything (which includes solo masturbation in the statistic). Did you even check what they also cited? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/ Proves my point. There's a lot more men who are not having sex than women in their 20s. These graphs shouldn't line up so insanely with the narrative otherwise.