4 ms·

> Sex is still considered taboo in many parts of the world and some parts of the US. Gay sex is still illegal in 71 countries in the world. Many of them still

> Sex is still considered taboo in many parts of the world and some parts of the US. Gay sex is still illegal in 71 countries in the world. Many of them still have the death penalty https://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/ https://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-ill... It's extremely sad how homosexuality is criminalised in such a large part of the world and it makes leaks of Grindr even more dangerous than just for the prospect of blackmail or just exposure.

VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
> It's extremely sad how love is criminalised First of all, we need to stop characterizing it as some kind _emotional_ thing like "love". It is not an emotional thing. It's a real thing.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  I think there's nothing more profound than love in the human condition to be honest. I don't think it's not real at all. It is probably the strongest driving force in human behaviour. I didn't mean to downplay the significance. But I changed my comment as it was not my intention to offend. On the contrary. Just saying "homosexuality" sounds distant and clinical so I said love to make it feel more real. Because really that's what it's about isn't it? For me love is what makes a relationship real. One based on just sex isn't, at least not to me. Why would something emotional not be real? Sexual attraction is a big part of love but I think the term goes much further than that.
  - VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
    I wasn't intending for you to change anything in your comment at all! It was very thoughtful and well-articulated and I really didn't have anything else to offer. I just always zoom in on the "love" keyword when talking about gays. It's just not a keyword term to use anymore.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Thanks, I didn't know that. I've heard that some American religions try to 'fit' gay feelings into their principles by telling members it's ok to feel but not to act. Perhaps this is the reason for this sentiment? That by saying "love" I subscribe to the idea that only the physical act makes it 'real'? I find that concept very strange. As if the act is more real than the feeling of love or attraction for someone. For me it's the opposite. In any case I changed it because I was clearly expressing a sentiment I didn't want to convey. Thanks for pointing it out.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    In the context of Grindr though, ppl be fuckin for fucks sake, same with Tinder for the most part.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  Emotions are real though? I’m confused. Attraction is real. Love is real. Dopamine and serotonin are real.
  - csa 5y ago
    I’m guessing the GP was referring to the illegal aspect being not love, but sex. It doesn’t make these laws less regressive, but it does (in most cases) somewhat limit the scope of the laws.
orangepurple 5y ago
The death penalty is not applied in the vast majority of prosecutions where it is illegal
- cullenmacdonald 5y ago
  great!
- nvr219 5y ago
  Yeah but do you really wanna roll the dice on that one
- octodog 5y ago
  The laws are still coercive and discriminatory though.
  - orangepurple 5y ago
    Agree

VWWHFSfQ 5y ago

> It's extremely sad how love is criminalised First of all, we need to stop characterizing it as some kind _emotional_ thing like "love". It is not an emotional thing. It's a real thing.

GekkePrutser 5y ago
I think there's nothing more profound than love in the human condition to be honest. I don't think it's not real at all. It is probably the strongest driving force in human behaviour. I didn't mean to downplay the significance. But I changed my comment as it was not my intention to offend. On the contrary. Just saying "homosexuality" sounds distant and clinical so I said love to make it feel more real. Because really that's what it's about isn't it? For me love is what makes a relationship real. One based on just sex isn't, at least not to me. Why would something emotional not be real? Sexual attraction is a big part of love but I think the term goes much further than that.
- VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
  I wasn't intending for you to change anything in your comment at all! It was very thoughtful and well-articulated and I really didn't have anything else to offer. I just always zoom in on the "love" keyword when talking about gays. It's just not a keyword term to use anymore.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know that. I've heard that some American religions try to 'fit' gay feelings into their principles by telling members it's ok to feel but not to act. Perhaps this is the reason for this sentiment? That by saying "love" I subscribe to the idea that only the physical act makes it 'real'? I find that concept very strange. As if the act is more real than the feeling of love or attraction for someone. For me it's the opposite. In any case I changed it because I was clearly expressing a sentiment I didn't want to convey. Thanks for pointing it out.
- brailsafe 5y ago
  In the context of Grindr though, ppl be fuckin for fucks sake, same with Tinder for the most part.
SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
Emotions are real though? I’m confused. Attraction is real. Love is real. Dopamine and serotonin are real.
- csa 5y ago
  I’m guessing the GP was referring to the illegal aspect being not love, but sex. It doesn’t make these laws less regressive, but it does (in most cases) somewhat limit the scope of the laws.

orangepurple 5y ago

The death penalty is not applied in the vast majority of prosecutions where it is illegal

cullenmacdonald 5y ago
great!
nvr219 5y ago
Yeah but do you really wanna roll the dice on that one
octodog 5y ago
The laws are still coercive and discriminatory though.
- orangepurple 5y ago
  Agree