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We're not talking about abstract metaphysics here. These are objectively measured metrics that correlate to direct physical impact on the planet.

• whimsicalism 4y ago
  Yes, so does meat eating. Nobody said anything about metaphysics, but whether something is wasteful is a normative question.
  • warent 4y ago
    There is research demonstrating that the lowest-impact meat produces significantly more greenhouse gas than the worst, highest-impact vegetable. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216 If you're arguing that excess greenhouse gas emissions is not a waste product, then it seems like you're either embracing climate change or you know something about greenhouse gasses that nobody else knows.
    • whimsicalism 4y ago
      > There is research demonstrating that the lowest-impact meat produces significantly more greenhouse gas than the worst, highest-impact vegetable. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216 Yes, that is my point. > either embracing climate change I'm making the very basic claim that all of these are based on normative facts, not metaphysics.