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Seems most likely you replied to this tweet and forgot. Your tweet makes sense in this context. "They arent bothering to train current conscripts. Some Russian

by bryced 4y ago

Seems most likely you replied to this tweet and forgot. Your tweet makes sense in this context. "They arent bothering to train current conscripts. Some Russian soldiers say they are given a weapon and sent straight in. Learn on the job." 11:29 AM · May 2, 2022 https://twitter.com/Johnrigsby128/status/1521195277033648129 https://twitter.com/Johnrigsby128/status/1521195277033648129

jacquesm 4y ago
Ok interesting, but within that context the tweet at least makes some sense but does not call for someone to die explicitly... it just gets weirder...
- djur 4y ago
  I had a tweet flagged and my account locked for explaining an aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory to another user. This was in a critical, skeptical context, but the individual tweet could be read as advocating the position I was describing. I wasn't successful in appealing it and ended up deleting. Twitter's policies tend to err heavily on the side of false positives.
- mdoms 4y ago
  So did you write the tweet or not? Your behaviour in this thread is really bizarre dude, can you just be up front with us?
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    What is bizarre about it? I got locked out of my account for something that makes zero sense to me, I'd like to figure out what happened. Would you not do the same?
    - dec0dedab0de 4y ago
      You might be able to check your browser history for clues if you maybe replied, and forgot. Though I don't know enough about how twitter works to know if that would reveal anything. I suspect some stuff is SPA-like and other stuff is traditional web. Do you have a proxy, or anything else that could be logging?
    - foogazi 4y ago
      But first you claimed you didn’t wrote the tweet Occam’s razor: did you get hacked or did you reply and blocked for the taken out of context content
- jrootabega 4y ago
  "Die on the job" could be seen as a command, or as "[Learn on the job? More like] Die on the job"
- bryced 4y ago
  Doesn't seem very mysterious. When taken in context it looks like an innocuous tweet but to a twitter censorship algorithm that isn't aware of the context it looks like a command for someone to die.
  - bambax 4y ago
    Seconded. It happened to me a while ago; I said in French (in a reply to something): "que les antivax meurent n'est pas étonnant", which means "that the antivaxxers would die isn't surprising" but which was apparently interpreted by Twitter as a death wish on the antivaxxers (it could indeed sound like one if you ignored the last part of the sentence). The tweet was immediately flagged, I believe by an automatic Twitter system; I learned that it's best to not use the word "die" in any language and any context, because the "AI" systems are incredibly limited and stupid, and they flag anything that may be construed in a negative way. Twitter then asked me to delete the tweet, but what it didn't tell me is that this would be an admission of guilt. I got suspended for a number of days, but I took this opportunity to quit Twitter. I didn't delete my account but didn't log back in. One of the best decisions I ever made.
- zerocrates 4y ago
  If the question here is just about why it would be flagged, that's pretty straightforwardly explicable by Twitter's detection (and/or manually-flagging passers-by, perhaps) simply not taking context into account.
- stagas 4y ago
  It seems someone is replying to your tweet by triggering the appeal process and telling you it's not "learn on the job", you said it wrong, it's "die on the job...".
xiphias2 4y ago
So with edit button implemented this wouldn't have happened
Kiro 4y ago
In that context it doesn't really look like a reply a hacker would make to get an account banned (unless they know exactly what triggers the auto-ban algorithm and are covering their tracks).

by bryced 4y ago

jacquesm 4y ago

Ok interesting, but within that context the tweet at least makes some sense but does not call for someone to die explicitly... it just gets weirder...

djur 4y ago
I had a tweet flagged and my account locked for explaining an aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory to another user. This was in a critical, skeptical context, but the individual tweet could be read as advocating the position I was describing. I wasn't successful in appealing it and ended up deleting. Twitter's policies tend to err heavily on the side of false positives.
mdoms 4y ago
So did you write the tweet or not? Your behaviour in this thread is really bizarre dude, can you just be up front with us?
- jacquesm 4y ago
  What is bizarre about it? I got locked out of my account for something that makes zero sense to me, I'd like to figure out what happened. Would you not do the same?
  - dec0dedab0de 4y ago
    You might be able to check your browser history for clues if you maybe replied, and forgot. Though I don't know enough about how twitter works to know if that would reveal anything. I suspect some stuff is SPA-like and other stuff is traditional web. Do you have a proxy, or anything else that could be logging?
  - foogazi 4y ago
    But first you claimed you didn’t wrote the tweet Occam’s razor: did you get hacked or did you reply and blocked for the taken out of context content
jrootabega 4y ago
"Die on the job" could be seen as a command, or as "[Learn on the job? More like] Die on the job"
bryced 4y ago
Doesn't seem very mysterious. When taken in context it looks like an innocuous tweet but to a twitter censorship algorithm that isn't aware of the context it looks like a command for someone to die.
- bambax 4y ago
  Seconded. It happened to me a while ago; I said in French (in a reply to something): "que les antivax meurent n'est pas étonnant", which means "that the antivaxxers would die isn't surprising" but which was apparently interpreted by Twitter as a death wish on the antivaxxers (it could indeed sound like one if you ignored the last part of the sentence). The tweet was immediately flagged, I believe by an automatic Twitter system; I learned that it's best to not use the word "die" in any language and any context, because the "AI" systems are incredibly limited and stupid, and they flag anything that may be construed in a negative way. Twitter then asked me to delete the tweet, but what it didn't tell me is that this would be an admission of guilt. I got suspended for a number of days, but I took this opportunity to quit Twitter. I didn't delete my account but didn't log back in. One of the best decisions I ever made.
zerocrates 4y ago
If the question here is just about why it would be flagged, that's pretty straightforwardly explicable by Twitter's detection (and/or manually-flagging passers-by, perhaps) simply not taking context into account.
stagas 4y ago
It seems someone is replying to your tweet by triggering the appeal process and telling you it's not "learn on the job", you said it wrong, it's "die on the job...".

xiphias2 4y ago

So with edit button implemented this wouldn't have happened

Kiro 4y ago

In that context it doesn't really look like a reply a hacker would make to get an account banned (unless they know exactly what triggers the auto-ban algorithm and are covering their tracks).