>> Ghandi did not have personal safety, but he was certainly self-actualized. His need for personal safety was low and probably satisfied. >> Nelson Mandela s

>> Ghandi did not have personal safety, but he was certainly self-actualized. His need for personal safety was low and probably satisfied. >> Nelson Mandela spent his life in prison, and yet raised an entire country to a higher level of consciousness. "higher level of consciousness" sounds like that pseudo-science stuff you don't like. >> Some of the greatest scientists, leaders, and artists in history were the most persecuted. But today, in the 21st century, we live in the safest time in history, with the least struggles in history, the most abundance, and what do we have? Millions of people with depression and mental illness, who are the farthest thing from being self-actualized. And? One might conclude that overcoming adversity is a solid path to self-actualized, even though - again - you think that whole concept is pseudo-science ;-)