So if I understand you right, Namibia lacks the "trappings of what present-day humans think of as civilization" because many San live as hunter-gatherers? The

So if I understand you right, Namibia lacks the "trappings of what present-day humans think of as civilization" because many San live as hunter-gatherers? The link you gave describes people who live on the margin; "peripheral members of the Puebloan culture". Not "most of the native groups", which is the phrase yous used earlier. Yes, many modern people don't have a sense of the pre-Spanish history of the Southwest. How is their ignorance relevant? > Artifacts are not history PaulDavisThe1st wrote "I suspect that the Tewa/Pueblo people in general would be a little troubled by the idea that they "left almost no history" behind." The current buildings of Taos Pueblo, as an example, started about 1,000 years ago. And they have a detailed oral history. This history helps understand the physical evidence. I'll quote from https://orias.berkeley.edu/resources-teachers/societies-americas/ancestral-pueblo https://orias.berkeley.edu/resources-teachers/societies-amer... : ] Consultation and collaboration with Pueblo people and scholars has changed the way that archaeologists think about migration away from Mesa Verde. Now, based on Tewa oral history, researchers understand that Mesa Verde people simply moved farther east, towards the Rio Grande region of northern New Mexico, where many of their descendants still live today. Using oral history, archaeology, and soil science, archaeologists have been able to come up with new ideas about the end of Mesa Verde. Even though there was a drought at the end of the time that people lived at the site, we can see that the environment was only one of the things that led people to move. The conditions when people moved weren’t much worse than they had been before. (Emphasis mine.) > everything died so we traveled through the hellish lands of death until we reached a place with water What are you talking about? Here are stores from the Cochiti - https://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/sw/tci/index.htm https://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/sw/tci/index.htm . I couldn't find something like what what you described. Or, "The oldest tradition of the people of Acoma and Laguna indicates that they lived on some island; that their homes were destroyed by tidal waves, earthquakes, and red-hot stones from the sky. They fled and landed on a low, swampy coast. From here they migrated to the northwest, and wherever they made a long stay they built a "White City" (Kush-kut-ret)" - http://www.legendsofnativeamerica.com/region_southwest/legends/CreationofSummerandWinter.php http://www.legendsofnativeamerica.com/region_southwest/legen... . In that story, things died because it was too cold, until Summer and Winter came to an agreement. And as I quoted earlier, "The conditions when people moved weren’t much worse than they had been before."