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Your comment is so incredibly divorced from reality. Plastic doesn't grow on trees either. Its production has huge impacts on the environment. Aluminum is hig

Your comment is so incredibly divorced from reality. Plastic doesn't grow on trees either. Its production has huge impacts on the environment. Aluminum is highly and easily recyclable. In fact Apple makes their MacBook enclosures from 100% recycled aluminum. No other computer manufacturer can make the same claim regarding the production of their plastic body notebooks. The idea that plastic can be infinitely recycled is just that: an idea. The infrastructure for recycling plastic is far more complex than recycling aluminum, as well as essentially non-existent. Apple computers have a history of having high resell values and long lifespans. You can see the evidence of that just by looking at eBay. And when they do eventually get tossed out that aluminum body can actually be recycled, where the same claim for plastic bodied notebooks cannot be factually made.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
> No other computer manufacturer can make the same claim regarding the production of their plastic body notebooks. I seriously believe it's time we start considering Apple a religion. Technology company HP Inc., Palo Alto, California, has a product and service portfolio that includes personal computer systems, printers and 3D printing solutions. Increasingly, the company’s products are manufactured using recycled-content plastics All the ocean-bound plastic that HP incorporates into its products is PET. The company says its HP Elite c1030 Chromebook Enterprise laptop is the world’s first Chromebook made with ocean-bound plastic. The device also is made from 75 percent recycled aluminum and features a keyboard made from 50 percent recycled plastics HP is using ocean-bound plastics in its products, with the Dragonfly is made of 80% recycled materials HP has just launched new ENVY notebooks that offer creators the freedom. The ENVY laptops are also made from recycled aluminum In 2018, we began implementing the use of an innovative bio-based packaging made from bamboo and sugar cane fiber. The material is not only 100 percent biodegradable, it is lighter than previous packaging and its strength characteristics enable design improvements that reduce overall package size. This new packaging was used to to ship memory cards and one of our ThinkPad models. With lighter packaging materials and package weight, the result was 6.7 percent less transportation CO2 emissions. We are therefore looking to expand the use of this bamboo and sugar cane fiber packaging innovation. Over a decade ago, Lenovo began using 100% recycled and recyclable packaging material. Instead of using polystyrene packaging, we now encourage the use of molded pulp, fiber and low-density polyethylene (LDPE). Lenovo unveiled their latest range of gizmos at CES 2022 a short while back, including the new ThinkPad Z Series of laptops featuring eco-friendly designs. The ThinkPad series is made from 75% recycled materials, the Z13 and Z16 are made from 100% recycled aluminium just to name a couple of them. Every brand out there is greenwashing its name... Anyway Apple has committed to be 100% carbon neutral in terms of its supply chain and products *by 2030*
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  In all of those examples you provided none of them meet the same criteria. Apple's entire macbook line, both Air and Pro, have bodies made from 100% recycled aluminum. The examples you provided, it's 50% recycled plastics or 75% recycled aluminum or 80% over-all or if 100% recycled aluminum is used it's only for some of their product lines. Given all of that: I never said other companies aren't trying, and I'm not dismissing their efforts. I just said they can't make the same claim. Additionally, when it comes to recycling those plastic bodies the infrastructure just isn't there like it is for aluminum. > Every brand out there is greenwashing its name... I'm glad they're doing it, even if it's just to improve their brand image and not out of actual concern for the environment. > I seriously believe it's time we start considering Apple a religion. :roll_eyes:

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

> No other computer manufacturer can make the same claim regarding the production of their plastic body notebooks. I seriously believe it's time we start considering Apple a religion. Technology company HP Inc., Palo Alto, California, has a product and service portfolio that includes personal computer systems, printers and 3D printing solutions. Increasingly, the company’s products are manufactured using recycled-content plastics All the ocean-bound plastic that HP incorporates into its products is PET. The company says its HP Elite c1030 Chromebook Enterprise laptop is the world’s first Chromebook made with ocean-bound plastic. The device also is made from 75 percent recycled aluminum and features a keyboard made from 50 percent recycled plastics HP is using ocean-bound plastics in its products, with the Dragonfly is made of 80% recycled materials HP has just launched new ENVY notebooks that offer creators the freedom. The ENVY laptops are also made from recycled aluminum In 2018, we began implementing the use of an innovative bio-based packaging made from bamboo and sugar cane fiber. The material is not only 100 percent biodegradable, it is lighter than previous packaging and its strength characteristics enable design improvements that reduce overall package size. This new packaging was used to to ship memory cards and one of our ThinkPad models. With lighter packaging materials and package weight, the result was 6.7 percent less transportation CO2 emissions. We are therefore looking to expand the use of this bamboo and sugar cane fiber packaging innovation. Over a decade ago, Lenovo began using 100% recycled and recyclable packaging material. Instead of using polystyrene packaging, we now encourage the use of molded pulp, fiber and low-density polyethylene (LDPE). Lenovo unveiled their latest range of gizmos at CES 2022 a short while back, including the new ThinkPad Z Series of laptops featuring eco-friendly designs. The ThinkPad series is made from 75% recycled materials, the Z13 and Z16 are made from 100% recycled aluminium just to name a couple of them. Every brand out there is greenwashing its name... Anyway Apple has committed to be 100% carbon neutral in terms of its supply chain and products *by 2030*

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redundantly 4y ago
In all of those examples you provided none of them meet the same criteria. Apple's entire macbook line, both Air and Pro, have bodies made from 100% recycled aluminum. The examples you provided, it's 50% recycled plastics or 75% recycled aluminum or 80% over-all or if 100% recycled aluminum is used it's only for some of their product lines. Given all of that: I never said other companies aren't trying, and I'm not dismissing their efforts. I just said they can't make the same claim. Additionally, when it comes to recycling those plastic bodies the infrastructure just isn't there like it is for aluminum. > Every brand out there is greenwashing its name... I'm glad they're doing it, even if it's just to improve their brand image and not out of actual concern for the environment. > I seriously believe it's time we start considering Apple a religion. :roll_eyes: