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The author clearly didn't studied the matter and she's speaking from personal and enviroment-she-can-perceive point of view, no offense with this part. After re

The author clearly didn't studied the matter and she's speaking from personal and enviroment-she-can-perceive point of view, no offense with this part. After reading the entire post, I can see she's biased with her own perception on the matter. Reading other articles, who are also biased just make it worse. When you look at the data, you realize the dating world for men is close to doom. Only a small fraction of men will traspass genes and most women compete for the top 20% men. The rest of the men are invisible. 1/3 of americans males, from 18 to 30 are virgins and it's climbing. Less marriages, more divorces initiated by women, and the list of stats goes on. Also, among all the sexual dynamics that benefit women, you have the services, which are done in order to milk the men who aren't attractive (not only good looking) for women. These men sustain Tinder economy, for example, as all the algorithms are made just to milk men money just to land some opportunity of attractions. Anyone interested should start reading papers, studies, and it will be surprised instead watching TikToks, tweets, etc.

durnygbur 4y ago
> These men sustain Tinder economy, for example, as all the algorithms are made just to milk men money just to land some opportunity of attractions. This goes even lower and darker. As a man pays for gold, platinium and gains infinite swipes, one discovers it's mostly profiles of scams, outright asking for money, proposals of findom, some women or fake profiles toying with you purely for their entertainment. A man doesn't even get sex for the money.
- id 4y ago
  >A man doesn't even get sex for the money. What makes you think paying for Tinder gold entitles you to sex?
  - durnygbur 4y ago
    Why otherwise would I insert coins into this bloody app? What makes women think that a mere using of dating app entitles them to find a partner for "serious relationship"? Paying for it makes me slightly frustrated or even entitled, yes.
schrijver 4y ago
I keep hearing this reference on how most (80%?) of women compete for the 20% of men, it just doesn’t make sense to me. It can only be true in a narrow sense… i.e. on a specific dating app 20% of men get messaged by 80% of women (that’s where the figure comes from IIRC?). But looking at the larger picture of how relationships are formed, there is no way for it to work this way. And if it were true, it would be just as bad for women—as most of them would stay single! These 20% of men might have an easier time on the apps, and casual hookups might be simpler, but they can’t be in relationships with 80% of women. And a committed partnership of two people keeps being the long term vision for most in the dating game. And people still have relationships. From the US numbers I could find, the bracket with the most singles is males 18-29, at 51%, which is a lot, but not exactly ‘close to doom’. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profi... EDT: This 80/20 figure initially came from an OKCupid study, and it’s about perceived attractiveness. In this study, 80% of men are perceived as of less than average attractiveness. However, that did not necessarily stop them from getting messaged. https://archive.ph/ZJymw#selection-600.0-633.275 https://archive.ph/ZJymw#selection-600.0-633.275
- antisthenes 4y ago
  > It can only be true in a narrow sense… i.e. on a specific dating app 20% of men get messaged by 80% of women (that’s where the figure comes from IIRC?). The apps are not a "narrow sense". It's how most people meet each other these days.

durnygbur 4y ago

> These men sustain Tinder economy, for example, as all the algorithms are made just to milk men money just to land some opportunity of attractions. This goes even lower and darker. As a man pays for gold, platinium and gains infinite swipes, one discovers it's mostly profiles of scams, outright asking for money, proposals of findom, some women or fake profiles toying with you purely for their entertainment. A man doesn't even get sex for the money.

id 4y ago
>A man doesn't even get sex for the money. What makes you think paying for Tinder gold entitles you to sex?
- durnygbur 4y ago
  Why otherwise would I insert coins into this bloody app? What makes women think that a mere using of dating app entitles them to find a partner for "serious relationship"? Paying for it makes me slightly frustrated or even entitled, yes.

schrijver 4y ago

I keep hearing this reference on how most (80%?) of women compete for the 20% of men, it just doesn’t make sense to me. It can only be true in a narrow sense… i.e. on a specific dating app 20% of men get messaged by 80% of women (that’s where the figure comes from IIRC?). But looking at the larger picture of how relationships are formed, there is no way for it to work this way. And if it were true, it would be just as bad for women—as most of them would stay single! These 20% of men might have an easier time on the apps, and casual hookups might be simpler, but they can’t be in relationships with 80% of women. And a committed partnership of two people keeps being the long term vision for most in the dating game. And people still have relationships. From the US numbers I could find, the bracket with the most singles is males 18-29, at 51%, which is a lot, but not exactly ‘close to doom’. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profi... EDT: This 80/20 figure initially came from an OKCupid study, and it’s about perceived attractiveness. In this study, 80% of men are perceived as of less than average attractiveness. However, that did not necessarily stop them from getting messaged. https://archive.ph/ZJymw#selection-600.0-633.275 https://archive.ph/ZJymw#selection-600.0-633.275

antisthenes 4y ago
> It can only be true in a narrow sense… i.e. on a specific dating app 20% of men get messaged by 80% of women (that’s where the figure comes from IIRC?). The apps are not a "narrow sense". It's how most people meet each other these days.