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This is true, but hormonal birth control all but destroys the innate ability to do this correctly. Most hormonal birth control functions by putting the body in
by smeej 5y ago
This is true, but hormonal birth control all but destroys the innate ability to do this correctly.
Most hormonal birth control functions by putting the body into a hormonal state that mimics pregnancy. If you're already carrying a baby, what you've evolved to look for in people to become close to during that time is actually people who are genetically more like you, rather than complementary. If for some reason you don't survive, your child will need a replacement for you, not a complement, especially if you conceived the child with someone complementary.
I don't have them to hand, but there have been several studies of this involving t-shirts worn for several days by different men and women smelling them and ranking them. If the women stop using birth control, their whole perception changes.
It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If your desire is specifically to have sex and not children, what you do to prevent children also makes you less likely to choose a partner who would produce children with you that would have the highest chances of survival.
It's small wonder that if you try to put that person into that role later, it's not going to go very well.
- fxtentacle 5y agowow TIL. But yeah, that intuitively makes sense. "Factorial ANOVA results showed that the group of nonpill users obtained higher scores on the PMI scale than the group of pill users (considering the fertile phase of the cycle)." where PMI = Partner's Masculinity Index https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S174360951530850X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S17436... In short, pill birth control reduced the desirability of features considered traditionally masculine.
- benrapscallion 5y agoYou TIL’d a lot of incorrect information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomeronasal_organ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomeronasal_organ
- smeej 5y agoI can't follow what point you're trying to make here. Is is that one possible way people have proposed that humans might react to pheromones probably only exists vestigially in humans? Or by introducing us to the name of this organ, are you somehow under the impression you've debunked the idea that pheromones have any impact on human behavior at all?
- CapricornNoble 5y ago>>>This is true, but hormonal birth control all but destroys the innate ability to do this correctly. >>>If the women stop using birth control, their whole perception changes. Very interesting, thanks. I've read similar conclusions pushed in manosphere/PUA circles for years, about how birth control has some major negative impacts on womens' behavior. My personal dating experience supports the pheromonal detection/selection abilities of women who are NOT on birth control as well. When multiple women from different countries/cultures/ethnicities all bury their faces in your chest, exclaim "I love your smell"....and ask to have your baby...something is going on beyond your good looks and ability to spit game.