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Chris Poole operates the world's most popular child pornography web site. Let's all listen to what he has to say.

by gnu6 15y ago

molesy 15y ago
"The National Security Agency operates the world's most popular child pornography web site, originally founded by Chris Poole. Let's all listen to what he has to say." Fixed.
- gnu6 15y ago
  You're thinking of facebook.
  - molesy 15y ago
    You're thinking "successful due to its remarkably high level of cooperation with", rather than "wholly operated by." Insert Twitter, Google responses below.
    - gnu6 15y ago
      It's baffling that I'm being downvoted so much. Apparently most hackernews users are devoted fans of 4chan who use that site to get their child pornography fix.
      - suivix 15y ago
        It's baffling that you're getting downvoted for accusing a site of being government-operated with 0 evidence, and then you put down HN users? Really?
        molesy 15y ago
        Naw, that was me. He just said moot runs the world's largest CP site and that's probably not a good reason to listen to him. This is the internet, so pastebin is as good as any other evidence: http://pastebin.com/fPW1myL9 http://pastebin.com/fPW1myL9 Of course that doesn't say NSA but my tinfoil is strong. Seriously, if you don't believe that these large social sites that popped out of nowhere with no obvious need and no chance of profitability haven't at least been very happily ushered along the path to success by an all-too-eager network of governments that give not two shits about their population for anything but their perverse amusement and enrichment, you're a complete moron and a prime example of why the founding fathers knew you can't trust the people to run a country. Because you're morons.
        burgerbrain 15y ago
        That paste doesn't pass even the most basic of sniff tests. "it has brought bans and thread/post deletions on /b/ for anything except CSA trafficking to a screeching halt" Is trivially false, and the statement: "When I knew only guilty people used 4chan (and primarily /b/), knowledge of the ongoing sting operation wasn't terribly concerning to me. But now, 4chan is going completely mainstream." Is absurd. Nobody with any sort of familiarity with the place years ago would ever believe "only guilty people used 4chan". That shit is and always has been the minority. Furthermore, anybody involved in such an operation would realize that "innocent mainstream" type people stumbling across that isn't going to get those people hauled into court. No. That paste is a troll, and either you've been trolled, or you are a troll and I've been trolled. Now, do I believe 4chan is cooperating with government investigations? Of course I do.. but that ain't evidence of it.
      - noarchy 15y ago
        I'm baffled that you'd make such a blanket statement without expecting to get downvoted. There are a lot of things that can be said about 4chan, many of which are certainly not flattering. But you're not going to get away with saying "most users" in conjunction with child porn, without some strong evidence.
burgerbrain 15y ago
That's like saying Comcast is the largest child pornography delivery service in the US.
- gnu6 15y ago
  No, it's not, because Comcast and other ISPs are what's called common carriers in the United States. This means that they are not liable for the content of their customers, such as 4chan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier#Telecommunications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier#Telecommunicati... If you think this is just a legal distinction and not a moral one, consider the company that rents a van to a person who later turns out to be a bank robber. They aren't liable for helping the bank robber get away, because they rent vans to anyone who comes along.
- burgerbrain 15y ago
  gnu6: Try again. "Internet Service Providers have argued against being classified as a "common carrier" and, so far, have managed to do so." ISPs are not common carriers, however the extent to which they are protected websites such as 4chan are also protected.
henrikschroder 15y ago
You are getting downvoted because your entire post is nothing but a guilt by association fallacy.

Chris Poole operates the world's most popular child pornography web site. Let's all listen to what he has to say.

by gnu6 15y ago

Chris Poole operates the world's most popular child pornography web site. Let's all listen to what he has to say.

"The National Security Agency operates the world's most popular child pornography web site, originally founded by Chris Poole. Let's all listen to what he has to say." Fixed.

gnu6 15y ago
You're thinking of facebook.
- molesy 15y ago
  You're thinking "successful due to its remarkably high level of cooperation with", rather than "wholly operated by." Insert Twitter, Google responses below.
  - gnu6 15y ago
    It's baffling that I'm being downvoted so much. Apparently most hackernews users are devoted fans of 4chan who use that site to get their child pornography fix.
    - suivix 15y ago
      It's baffling that you're getting downvoted for accusing a site of being government-operated with 0 evidence, and then you put down HN users? Really?
      - molesy 15y ago
        Naw, that was me. He just said moot runs the world's largest CP site and that's probably not a good reason to listen to him. This is the internet, so pastebin is as good as any other evidence: http://pastebin.com/fPW1myL9 http://pastebin.com/fPW1myL9 Of course that doesn't say NSA but my tinfoil is strong. Seriously, if you don't believe that these large social sites that popped out of nowhere with no obvious need and no chance of profitability haven't at least been very happily ushered along the path to success by an all-too-eager network of governments that give not two shits about their population for anything but their perverse amusement and enrichment, you're a complete moron and a prime example of why the founding fathers knew you can't trust the people to run a country. Because you're morons.
        burgerbrain 15y ago
        That paste doesn't pass even the most basic of sniff tests. "it has brought bans and thread/post deletions on /b/ for anything except CSA trafficking to a screeching halt" Is trivially false, and the statement: "When I knew only guilty people used 4chan (and primarily /b/), knowledge of the ongoing sting operation wasn't terribly concerning to me. But now, 4chan is going completely mainstream." Is absurd. Nobody with any sort of familiarity with the place years ago would ever believe "only guilty people used 4chan". That shit is and always has been the minority. Furthermore, anybody involved in such an operation would realize that "innocent mainstream" type people stumbling across that isn't going to get those people hauled into court. No. That paste is a troll, and either you've been trolled, or you are a troll and I've been trolled. Now, do I believe 4chan is cooperating with government investigations? Of course I do.. but that ain't evidence of it.
    - noarchy 15y ago
      I'm baffled that you'd make such a blanket statement without expecting to get downvoted. There are a lot of things that can be said about 4chan, many of which are certainly not flattering. But you're not going to get away with saying "most users" in conjunction with child porn, without some strong evidence.

burgerbrain 15y ago

That's like saying Comcast is the largest child pornography delivery service in the US.

gnu6 15y ago
No, it's not, because Comcast and other ISPs are what's called common carriers in the United States. This means that they are not liable for the content of their customers, such as 4chan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier#Telecommunications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier#Telecommunicati... If you think this is just a legal distinction and not a moral one, consider the company that rents a van to a person who later turns out to be a bank robber. They aren't liable for helping the bank robber get away, because they rent vans to anyone who comes along.
burgerbrain 15y ago
gnu6: Try again. "Internet Service Providers have argued against being classified as a "common carrier" and, so far, have managed to do so." ISPs are not common carriers, however the extent to which they are protected websites such as 4chan are also protected.

henrikschroder 15y ago

You are getting downvoted because your entire post is nothing but a guilt by association fallacy.