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I grow a large amount of fruit and vegetables. There isn't really a best seed. There are simply tradeoffs. That probably sounds familiar :-) Disease resistanc

I grow a large amount of fruit and vegetables. There isn't really a best seed. There are simply tradeoffs. That probably sounds familiar :-) Disease resistance, water tolerance, soil conditions, climate, daylight, tolerance to heat and cold, pest resistance, taste, yield, time to grow, harvest period, storage period. There are usually an incredible number of varieties for any given plant. It takes quite a few years to start to find ones that work the best for you. It's also doubly tricky as your conditions will change each year. I like to plant a wide variety of seeds as that makes it likely that something delicious will thrive. I'd also say that typically home grown fresh vegetables are so much tastier than ship bought that you might worry less about iothan you think.

fsflover 4y ago
> There isn't really a best seed. There are simply tradeoffs. (Probably a naive question, but I know very little about the topic, sorry) Why not to make GMO crops without tradeoffs?
- hansel_der 4y ago
  probably because "GMO crops without tradeoffs" are a contradiction
  - fsflover 4y ago
    Could you elaborate? GMO crops possess no safety risk (if that's what you mean): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_crops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_crops.
    - hansel_der 4y ago
      your overly generous assumption about the safety risk aside, imagine a genetic modification and subsequent introduction of that modified organism into the ecosphere like a big leap of faith. genetic mutation occuring in nature is of smaller scale (a few differences, a few individuals) and not subject to contradicting incentives that politics and markets are prone to.
      - fsflover 4y ago
        > your overly generous assumption about the safety risk This is not my assumption, this is scientific consensus, see the linked page. > subsequent introduction of that modified organism into the ecosphere This is not how the ecosphere works. The new mutation will only survive if it provides some benefits for the survival. If more nutritious fruits are like this, I see no problem here at all.
        hansel_der 4y ago
        >> your overly generous assumption about the safety risk >This is not my assumption, this is scientific consensus, see the linked page. i very much doubt that: * it could be proven (that gmo's WILL NOT harmfully interact with other organisms) * there is (something aproaching) consensus on that topic * wikipedia is a credible source for it thou i share the view that gmo have massively enhanced our abilities, i also think that the risk is of the same magnitude.
        fsflover 4y ago
        > wikipedia is a credible source for it Wikipedia is not a source. It's a list of sources. And those sources are actually very good, check yourself.

fsflover 4y ago

> There isn't really a best seed. There are simply tradeoffs. (Probably a naive question, but I know very little about the topic, sorry) Why not to make GMO crops without tradeoffs?

hansel_der 4y ago
probably because "GMO crops without tradeoffs" are a contradiction
- fsflover 4y ago
  Could you elaborate? GMO crops possess no safety risk (if that's what you mean): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_crops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_crops.
  - hansel_der 4y ago
    your overly generous assumption about the safety risk aside, imagine a genetic modification and subsequent introduction of that modified organism into the ecosphere like a big leap of faith. genetic mutation occuring in nature is of smaller scale (a few differences, a few individuals) and not subject to contradicting incentives that politics and markets are prone to.
    - fsflover 4y ago
      > your overly generous assumption about the safety risk This is not my assumption, this is scientific consensus, see the linked page. > subsequent introduction of that modified organism into the ecosphere This is not how the ecosphere works. The new mutation will only survive if it provides some benefits for the survival. If more nutritious fruits are like this, I see no problem here at all.
      - hansel_der 4y ago
        >> your overly generous assumption about the safety risk >This is not my assumption, this is scientific consensus, see the linked page. i very much doubt that: * it could be proven (that gmo's WILL NOT harmfully interact with other organisms) * there is (something aproaching) consensus on that topic * wikipedia is a credible source for it thou i share the view that gmo have massively enhanced our abilities, i also think that the risk is of the same magnitude.
        fsflover 4y ago
        > wikipedia is a credible source for it Wikipedia is not a source. It's a list of sources. And those sources are actually very good, check yourself.