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I would like to see corporations that commit manslaughter dissolved. Threat to human life should be an existential risk.

by widjit 4y ago

Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
There are cases where corporations should be given the 'death penalty' (disolve the corporation), but these should be rare. But in all cases where crimes happen, it is because actual human beings committed them, knew about them, and/or aided in them. Those people should be punished: financially (fines), professionally (fired and barred from working in that field or role, particularly CEOs and other leaders), and criminally (jail) in proportion to the crime they participated in. This isn't complicated nor is it even controversial. Problem is that corporations have so much power that they can subvert the system to be sure none of the above ever happen.
missedthecue 4y ago
If a CSX freight train hits a car on the tracks, killing the driver, the entire company and the tens of thousands of people who get their paycheck there should all cease? That seems like a massive waste of everything.
- jokethrowaway 4y ago
  I wouldn't say so. This sounds like an accident and I don't think there was intent. If there was intent I would also say it's intent on the part of the driver (pending a mental health examination) and not on part of the company. If the company instructed the driver to hit a car on the tracks they would be a criminal organisation and they should cease to exist. In the case of GSK they committed fraud by lying to their customers. It's not intentionally killing someone but it's definitely endangering lives and it should cost more than 3B
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  There's a difference between human error and a criminal campaign to defraud people. GSK should not exist anymore in its current form. It should have been chopped into bits and sold for spare parts.
  - missedthecue 4y ago
    But the parent comment said manslaughter. Killing another human in a traffic accident is manslaughter.

I would like to see corporations that commit manslaughter dissolved. Threat to human life should be an existential risk.

by widjit 4y ago

I would like to see corporations that commit manslaughter dissolved. Threat to human life should be an existential risk.

Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago

There are cases where corporations should be given the 'death penalty' (disolve the corporation), but these should be rare. But in all cases where crimes happen, it is because actual human beings committed them, knew about them, and/or aided in them. Those people should be punished: financially (fines), professionally (fired and barred from working in that field or role, particularly CEOs and other leaders), and criminally (jail) in proportion to the crime they participated in. This isn't complicated nor is it even controversial. Problem is that corporations have so much power that they can subvert the system to be sure none of the above ever happen.

missedthecue 4y ago

If a CSX freight train hits a car on the tracks, killing the driver, the entire company and the tens of thousands of people who get their paycheck there should all cease? That seems like a massive waste of everything.

jokethrowaway 4y ago
I wouldn't say so. This sounds like an accident and I don't think there was intent. If there was intent I would also say it's intent on the part of the driver (pending a mental health examination) and not on part of the company. If the company instructed the driver to hit a car on the tracks they would be a criminal organisation and they should cease to exist. In the case of GSK they committed fraud by lying to their customers. It's not intentionally killing someone but it's definitely endangering lives and it should cost more than 3B
MisterBastahrd 4y ago
There's a difference between human error and a criminal campaign to defraud people. GSK should not exist anymore in its current form. It should have been chopped into bits and sold for spare parts.
- missedthecue 4y ago
  But the parent comment said manslaughter. Killing another human in a traffic accident is manslaughter.