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there are no longterm effects of amphetamine use at therapeutic dosages, that's fake news. i hate capitalism as much as the next guy (i'm literally a socialist

there are no longterm effects of amphetamine use at therapeutic dosages, that's fake news. i hate capitalism as much as the next guy (i'm literally a socialist) but i still want to be successful, have healthy relationships, plan events in my life appropriately, and not let people down by inaction, forgetfulness, or social outbursts. fwiw i'm hugely successful and was even without medication excelling in my field and have contributed to world-changing projects. but i still was frustrated about my utility, my actions in social situations, and the issues i had with executive dysfunction. i don't fit any mold, and could give less than two shits about "fitting in" in the general sense, but i still want to create good works, build a career, and especially do things like raise a family and enjoy my time with others. and all of those things are domains where ADHD has an effect, and where medication helps. i've been on-and-off medicated, and there is 100% a utility in it for some.

hirvi74 4y ago
> there are no longterm effects of amphetamine use at therapeutic dosages, that's fake news. Sure, I would agree they are not common, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. Not to mention we only know what we know, and we do not know what we do not know. Other than potential cardiac and vascular issues, albeit rare, researchers are still debating whether the stimulant medications cause an increase in Parkinson's and Parkinson's-like disorders. > there is 100% a utility in it for some. Sure, I won't disagree. I still take mine, but it's more of a "it's better than nothing" but I question if the efficacy is as strong as many anecdotes report. Especially after longterm usage. I'll see if I can find the study, but it was some sort of meta-analysis and tracked various children-aged students across a 7 years or so long timespan. Based on the researchers' observations, the medications greatly improved the symptoms of the youth for the first year or so, but around the 7 year mark, the students were back to baseline levels symptoms. I'm not sharing this to be the 'come all, end all' of the debate of medication intervention. I just remember being told and having read on numerous occasions that, "you gain a tolerance to the feeling of the medication, but not to the therapeutic effects" but I do not believe it. Tolerance is tolerance at least in my experience.

hirvi74 4y ago

> there are no longterm effects of amphetamine use at therapeutic dosages, that's fake news. Sure, I would agree they are not common, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. Not to mention we only know what we know, and we do not know what we do not know. Other than potential cardiac and vascular issues, albeit rare, researchers are still debating whether the stimulant medications cause an increase in Parkinson's and Parkinson's-like disorders. > there is 100% a utility in it for some. Sure, I won't disagree. I still take mine, but it's more of a "it's better than nothing" but I question if the efficacy is as strong as many anecdotes report. Especially after longterm usage. I'll see if I can find the study, but it was some sort of meta-analysis and tracked various children-aged students across a 7 years or so long timespan. Based on the researchers' observations, the medications greatly improved the symptoms of the youth for the first year or so, but around the 7 year mark, the students were back to baseline levels symptoms. I'm not sharing this to be the 'come all, end all' of the debate of medication intervention. I just remember being told and having read on numerous occasions that, "you gain a tolerance to the feeling of the medication, but not to the therapeutic effects" but I do not believe it. Tolerance is tolerance at least in my experience.