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> wondering what your true potential looks like since adhd is treated with amphetamine which is essentially a performance enhancing drug that boosts your focus

by gfody 4y ago

> wondering what your true potential looks like since adhd is treated with amphetamine which is essentially a performance enhancing drug that boosts your focus/awareness/intensity. it's probably dangerous to think of your medicated self's potential as being truer than your natural self's. seems like a trap.

lghh 4y ago
Yep, just like someone who takes insulin for their diabetes should not refer to themself on insulin as "their true self".
- gfody 4y ago
  the trap in your example would be following the true scotsman fallacy into believing that you need your insulin to survive/thrive - which could be true in the case of diabetes, so not just like.
  - lghh 4y ago
    Considering people with ADHD have a much shorter lifespan, I would disagree. I encourage you to actually look into what medication for those with ADHD looks like before disparaging those who seek treatment.
    - gfody 4y ago
      not intending to disparage anyone living a normal life on an indefinite adderall prescription, more acknowledging the risk of mistaking its effects as unlocking your true potential rather than as relief from suffering, and then inadvertently shortening your life rather than extending it (hence the "trap" comment)
codyogden 4y ago
I'd really encourage you to read up on how stimulants affect people with ADHD. It is quite the opposite of "performance enhancing" that you're implying here.
hatware 4y ago
When I say true potential, you must understand that this is from the perspective that my unmedicated ADHD brain is only about 30% efficient. Throwing a number out there, but I know that it's very hard for me to work efficiently if my environment isn't exactly right. I'm not interested in long term dependence on any drug and speak to true potential in a healthy, clinically medicated way.
kanbara 4y ago
and depression is treated with anti-depressants which change your mood therefore you are not your true self? what a load of bs lol. people can _choose_ if they want medication, how they feel on it, and what it helps them with. and it helps millions of people have normal productive lives without fear of inadequacy or ruin because of dysfunction or cognitive issues. it's great if you or others don't believe in medication, but humanity has coped with drugs that affect performance for millennia.
- gfody 4y ago
  > humanity has coped with drugs that affect performance for millennia the tendency to treat disorders with (often life-long) amphetamines and ssris is a relatively recent development. obviously it's your choice to ween or risk it (unless you're restrained in a facility) and it's not bullshit to advise caution generally but especially to anyone seeking "true potential" vs "normal life without suffering"

by gfody 4y ago

lghh 4y ago

Yep, just like someone who takes insulin for their diabetes should not refer to themself on insulin as "their true self".

gfody 4y ago
the trap in your example would be following the true scotsman fallacy into believing that you need your insulin to survive/thrive - which could be true in the case of diabetes, so not just like.
- lghh 4y ago
  Considering people with ADHD have a much shorter lifespan, I would disagree. I encourage you to actually look into what medication for those with ADHD looks like before disparaging those who seek treatment.
  - gfody 4y ago
    not intending to disparage anyone living a normal life on an indefinite adderall prescription, more acknowledging the risk of mistaking its effects as unlocking your true potential rather than as relief from suffering, and then inadvertently shortening your life rather than extending it (hence the "trap" comment)

codyogden 4y ago

I'd really encourage you to read up on how stimulants affect people with ADHD. It is quite the opposite of "performance enhancing" that you're implying here.

hatware 4y ago

When I say true potential, you must understand that this is from the perspective that my unmedicated ADHD brain is only about 30% efficient. Throwing a number out there, but I know that it's very hard for me to work efficiently if my environment isn't exactly right. I'm not interested in long term dependence on any drug and speak to true potential in a healthy, clinically medicated way.

kanbara 4y ago

and depression is treated with anti-depressants which change your mood therefore you are not your true self? what a load of bs lol. people can _choose_ if they want medication, how they feel on it, and what it helps them with. and it helps millions of people have normal productive lives without fear of inadequacy or ruin because of dysfunction or cognitive issues. it's great if you or others don't believe in medication, but humanity has coped with drugs that affect performance for millennia.

gfody 4y ago
> humanity has coped with drugs that affect performance for millennia the tendency to treat disorders with (often life-long) amphetamines and ssris is a relatively recent development. obviously it's your choice to ween or risk it (unless you're restrained in a facility) and it's not bullshit to advise caution generally but especially to anyone seeking "true potential" vs "normal life without suffering"