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ADHD is a physical condition, not a mental illness. You can still have it an not be negatively affected by it.

by iamdbtoo 4y ago

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
All mental illnesses are physical conditions.
- astrange 4y ago
  Personality disorders aren't physical conditions anymore than the number 2 is a physical object. They're maladaptive learned behaviors.
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    Maladaptive learned behaviors change the physical structure of the brain.
    - astrange 4y ago
      That's like calling a malware infection a damaged hard drive. The way to fix them is at the same conceptual level you learned them from; we don't have offline brain editing tech.
      - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
        We do have brain editing tech, it is called synaptic plasticity. We are not a computer. Or we are one that can in fact change its own hardware.
hirvi74 4y ago
> ADHD is a physical condition It sure is not handled like one. If that is the case, then I find it odd that most people get treated by psychiatrist and not neurologist. Also, why are fMRI and other neurological scans not used to diagnosis the illness? It seems to be merely symptom based diagnostics coupled with psychological evaluations. (I am not saying there are not structural neurological differences.)
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  Agree! How many times have I been hospitalized (psychiatric) and have not even had a single blood test? Six. I had an MRI for hearing problems and they found flares around my occipital horns. They still did nothing. Mental illnesses are the most medically stigmatized disorders.
  - hirvi74 4y ago
    Do you ever feel like they are just weird manifestations of the accumulations of various stressors in life? Perhaps, there is nothing /neurologically/ different -- at least not to a significant enough degree? What then? I am not trying to be all woo-woo about this, but we live in a time where technology, and not just recent technology, has propelled us far further than we ready for? I had trouble sitting still and learning in school, but I was able to fake it enough to learn quickly enough to make it through undiagnosed. However, I still caused various other problems i.e. class clown with good enough grades to not get in trouble. Still, I always found school to be tortuous and stressful (I still would if I had to go back). However, I like to take a step back when things that bothered me like what I mentioned above start to creep back into my mind -- If I were born 100, 200, ... , 9900, 10000 years ago, how much disorder would I have likely faced? I wouldn't have had trouble focusing in classrooms when there were no classrooms for the below average to average person like myself. How would my life have been? Would I have been 'normal?' If so, then maybe... I'm 'normal,' now? I cannot speak for mental disorders, but I hope my fellows can find peace. We didn't choose this system, and this system doesn't care about us, but when the sun goes down, the moon comes out. I feel like I have a duty to myself to enjoy life, normal or not, because really... It's not like anything life matters anyway.
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      First, I really hate when people downvote questions like this. It's just a question? It is inquiry! It should be applauded! There is no doubt that stress plays a large role. Remember, it is nature AND nurture. I am more sensitive to the nurture aspect because of my genetics, and yes, I know my actual genetics. I agree that the human condition is not capable of adapting to the quickness of technological changes, and this brings out more peoples genetic sensitivities. Even if you go back to the 1800 with the rise in transportation, It took my family away from an environment they were steeped in for a thousand years. All those genetic adaptations to the environment were suddenly faced with a brand new one. Being on disability saved my life because it enabled me to live a life closer to my genetics. I was making bank as a network engineer at Cisco but I do not miss the money. For me, much of the neurological damage has been done as seen in brain scans, but I know I am not getting worse and I no longer need to be on medicine 24x7. I do have flare ups, but they are not continuous like they were in the past. But probably the most important part you have left out is diet. Omega 3 is huge and for ADHD, probably Zinc and B6. But we have a system of sick care, not health care, so these things are never investigated, not even by those who are suffering with these disorders.

ADHD is a physical condition, not a mental illness. You can still have it an not be negatively affected by it.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago

All mental illnesses are physical conditions.

astrange 4y ago
Personality disorders aren't physical conditions anymore than the number 2 is a physical object. They're maladaptive learned behaviors.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  Maladaptive learned behaviors change the physical structure of the brain.
  - astrange 4y ago
    That's like calling a malware infection a damaged hard drive. The way to fix them is at the same conceptual level you learned them from; we don't have offline brain editing tech.
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      We do have brain editing tech, it is called synaptic plasticity. We are not a computer. Or we are one that can in fact change its own hardware.

hirvi74 4y ago

> ADHD is a physical condition It sure is not handled like one. If that is the case, then I find it odd that most people get treated by psychiatrist and not neurologist. Also, why are fMRI and other neurological scans not used to diagnosis the illness? It seems to be merely symptom based diagnostics coupled with psychological evaluations. (I am not saying there are not structural neurological differences.)

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
Agree! How many times have I been hospitalized (psychiatric) and have not even had a single blood test? Six. I had an MRI for hearing problems and they found flares around my occipital horns. They still did nothing. Mental illnesses are the most medically stigmatized disorders.
- hirvi74 4y ago
  Do you ever feel like they are just weird manifestations of the accumulations of various stressors in life? Perhaps, there is nothing /neurologically/ different -- at least not to a significant enough degree? What then? I am not trying to be all woo-woo about this, but we live in a time where technology, and not just recent technology, has propelled us far further than we ready for? I had trouble sitting still and learning in school, but I was able to fake it enough to learn quickly enough to make it through undiagnosed. However, I still caused various other problems i.e. class clown with good enough grades to not get in trouble. Still, I always found school to be tortuous and stressful (I still would if I had to go back). However, I like to take a step back when things that bothered me like what I mentioned above start to creep back into my mind -- If I were born 100, 200, ... , 9900, 10000 years ago, how much disorder would I have likely faced? I wouldn't have had trouble focusing in classrooms when there were no classrooms for the below average to average person like myself. How would my life have been? Would I have been 'normal?' If so, then maybe... I'm 'normal,' now? I cannot speak for mental disorders, but I hope my fellows can find peace. We didn't choose this system, and this system doesn't care about us, but when the sun goes down, the moon comes out. I feel like I have a duty to myself to enjoy life, normal or not, because really... It's not like anything life matters anyway.
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    First, I really hate when people downvote questions like this. It's just a question? It is inquiry! It should be applauded! There is no doubt that stress plays a large role. Remember, it is nature AND nurture. I am more sensitive to the nurture aspect because of my genetics, and yes, I know my actual genetics. I agree that the human condition is not capable of adapting to the quickness of technological changes, and this brings out more peoples genetic sensitivities. Even if you go back to the 1800 with the rise in transportation, It took my family away from an environment they were steeped in for a thousand years. All those genetic adaptations to the environment were suddenly faced with a brand new one. Being on disability saved my life because it enabled me to live a life closer to my genetics. I was making bank as a network engineer at Cisco but I do not miss the money. For me, much of the neurological damage has been done as seen in brain scans, but I know I am not getting worse and I no longer need to be on medicine 24x7. I do have flare ups, but they are not continuous like they were in the past. But probably the most important part you have left out is diet. Omega 3 is huge and for ADHD, probably Zinc and B6. But we have a system of sick care, not health care, so these things are never investigated, not even by those who are suffering with these disorders.