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> Let’s not forget that the vaunted focus on design has given us a mouse with the charger on the bottom as well as innumerable other botches over the years. If

> Let’s not forget that the vaunted focus on design has given us a mouse with the charger on the bottom as well as innumerable other botches over the years. If the charging port was not on the bottom, a huge percentage of users would just leave it plugged in. Then a wireless mouse would functionally be a wired one.

fuckcensorship 5y ago
What are you basing this assumption on?
- matthewdgreen 5y ago
  The fact that everyone I know leaves their Apple wireless keyboard plugged in most of the time. (Sample size N=~5.)
- reaperducer 5y ago
  Perhaps his personal experience. Which is the same as mine. When I was still working in the office pre-pandemic, everyone with a cordless mouse kept it plugged in all the time, presumably out of fear that it would discharge. They turned a cordless mouse into a corded mouse. The only difference being that instead of plugging it into their computers, they were plugged into their monitors or hubs.
dylan604 5y ago
Yeah? So? This is the hubris of the designer assuming the thing will always be used exactly as the designer intended. However, in the real world, people tend to not know the designer's intended use or just don't care what they intended. Users will use thing however they want/need. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I put the "wrong" as "hmm, didn't think of that" on the short sitedness of the designer.
- matthewdgreen 5y ago
  It should not surprise you that Apple has hubris and strong opinions about how their products should be used. You see this in everything from the design to the features they support (and disable). This certainly existed in the Jobs era and it still exists in the Cook era, and they’re not “design features” in the sense that it’s only about appearance. The allegation of the previous post was that the charging port was purely a design feature rather than a product-experience one. And further that it’s a “botch” rather than an intentional feature that may actually be achieving a useful goal that the post author just doesn’t assign value to. To be a “botch” would imply that people dislike the device and it’s a sales failure.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    When the CEO of the company gives an official response as "You're holding it wrong", I was never under the impression that Apple was concerned with anything other than their opinions

fuckcensorship 5y ago

What are you basing this assumption on?

matthewdgreen 5y ago
The fact that everyone I know leaves their Apple wireless keyboard plugged in most of the time. (Sample size N=~5.)
reaperducer 5y ago
Perhaps his personal experience. Which is the same as mine. When I was still working in the office pre-pandemic, everyone with a cordless mouse kept it plugged in all the time, presumably out of fear that it would discharge. They turned a cordless mouse into a corded mouse. The only difference being that instead of plugging it into their computers, they were plugged into their monitors or hubs.

dylan604 5y ago

Yeah? So? This is the hubris of the designer assuming the thing will always be used exactly as the designer intended. However, in the real world, people tend to not know the designer's intended use or just don't care what they intended. Users will use thing however they want/need. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I put the "wrong" as "hmm, didn't think of that" on the short sitedness of the designer.

matthewdgreen 5y ago
It should not surprise you that Apple has hubris and strong opinions about how their products should be used. You see this in everything from the design to the features they support (and disable). This certainly existed in the Jobs era and it still exists in the Cook era, and they’re not “design features” in the sense that it’s only about appearance. The allegation of the previous post was that the charging port was purely a design feature rather than a product-experience one. And further that it’s a “botch” rather than an intentional feature that may actually be achieving a useful goal that the post author just doesn’t assign value to. To be a “botch” would imply that people dislike the device and it’s a sales failure.
- dylan604 5y ago
  When the CEO of the company gives an official response as "You're holding it wrong", I was never under the impression that Apple was concerned with anything other than their opinions