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Zulip currently has better support for public-view chat rooms than Matrix: https://zulip.com/help/web-public-streams https://zulip.com/help/web-public-streams

Zulip currently has better support for public-view chat rooms than Matrix: https://zulip.com/help/web-public-streams https://zulip.com/help/web-public-streams AFAIK, Matrix currently only supports this properly via its Gitter network. It’s in progress as a core feature though.

Arathorn 4y ago
Matrix has view.matrix.org, and also has read only view of public rooms as per https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix-dev:matrix.org https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix-dev:matrix.org (which should work if you’re not logged in). Meanwhile we’re also applying the Gitter approach to the whole Matrix ecosystem: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-public-archive https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-public-archive
- hypothesis 4y ago
  > which should work if you’re not logged in It doesn't. That page has all sort of placeholder elements on it and Signup/Login buttons instead of what I assume would be a room view. Try using incognito mode yourself.
  - Arathorn 4y ago
    Huh, for some reason #matrix-dev:matrix.org hadn't been set to be world readable; I've now flipped the bit to make it visible. Meanwhile, a room which is already world-readable like #matrix:matrix.org should look like this: https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/myDwmyxWyhBrDCehofspozNL https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/m... if you hit https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix:matrix.org https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix:matrix.org in an incognito tab. It's far from perfect (e.g. doesn't support mobile web; very sluggish to load) but the feature is at least there in principle.
    - hypothesis 4y ago
      It's readable now. Thank you for addressing the issue! Also I feel like mobile view would be in usable state if one could just collapse that side panel on left side. But desktop view is quite functional for now.
3np 4y ago
While it's a feature that could use some work in implementation, it's orthogonal to the Matrix protocol. There is (and should be IMO) no notion of this in Matrix as such, while great support in implementations can be desirable (and is underway).

Arathorn 4y ago

Matrix has view.matrix.org, and also has read only view of public rooms as per https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix-dev:matrix.org https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix-dev:matrix.org (which should work if you’re not logged in). Meanwhile we’re also applying the Gitter approach to the whole Matrix ecosystem: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-public-archive https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-public-archive

hypothesis 4y ago
> which should work if you’re not logged in It doesn't. That page has all sort of placeholder elements on it and Signup/Login buttons instead of what I assume would be a room view. Try using incognito mode yourself.
- Arathorn 4y ago
  Huh, for some reason #matrix-dev:matrix.org hadn't been set to be world readable; I've now flipped the bit to make it visible. Meanwhile, a room which is already world-readable like #matrix:matrix.org should look like this: https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/myDwmyxWyhBrDCehofspozNL https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/m... if you hit https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix:matrix.org https://app.element.io/#/room/#matrix:matrix.org in an incognito tab. It's far from perfect (e.g. doesn't support mobile web; very sluggish to load) but the feature is at least there in principle.
  - hypothesis 4y ago
    It's readable now. Thank you for addressing the issue! Also I feel like mobile view would be in usable state if one could just collapse that side panel on left side. But desktop view is quite functional for now.

3np 4y ago

While it's a feature that could use some work in implementation, it's orthogonal to the Matrix protocol. There is (and should be IMO) no notion of this in Matrix as such, while great support in implementations can be desirable (and is underway).