The other side of this is when you're at a startup and bring in more people from a non startup background, and they all immediately start complaining how proces

The other side of this is when you're at a startup and bring in more people from a non startup background, and they all immediately start complaining how process x was way more organized at HP or AWS or wherever they were before. At the pace we were hiring at my last job, I got to hear the same suggestions for improvement week after week while onboarding newbies - it was pretty amusing. Of course we fixed what we could as fast as we could, but the amount of things that was ridiculously broken was obviously still huge.