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I don’t think that was due to Ive but more so that he couldn’t excel without Steve around. It's also clearly stated in the article that this was one of the rea
by nojito 4y ago
I don’t think that was due to Ive but more so that he couldn’t excel without Steve around.
It's also clearly stated in the article that this was one of the reasons that Ive was given the CDO role. So that he could do less of what Steve did for him.
- ceejayoz 4y agoThis. It seems clear Jobs served a “you made it very pretty but it sucks to use” role in feedback.
- kergonath 4y agoThere are many counter-examples, from the original iMac’s mouse to the iPod Hifi. Jobs said no a lot, and that was a good thing, but he did not have absolute good taste. To his credit, he was good at learning from mistakes, even though he very rarely acknowledged them in public.
- ceejayoz 4y agoDon’t have to get every single one right to still play the role. The man was effective, not infallible.
- kergonath 4y agoBut then it works both ways: you cannot cite a couple of failures under Cook to say that Jobs was irreplaceable.
- ceejayoz 4y agoYou seem to be debating someone else; I haven't said that? I think Jobs and Ive were a pair that complimented each other. I think when Jobs died, Ive lost that moderating influence, and "thin at the cost of good" and "we got rid of buttons" were the result for a while.
- astrange 4y agoOn the other hand, Ive without Jobs got you iOS 7 with all the fine Corinthian leather removed.