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Greta Thunberg doesn’t want you to talk about her anymore

7 points by chewz 4y ago

incomingpain 4y ago
Her parents abused her taking her out of school and turning her into a political tool. Worse yet, politicians abused her further by giving her the stage. My understanding she earnt multiple millions doing this. Fame isn't free. It takes significant effort and training to reduce the cost of fame, which Greta obviously never did. Worse yet, when politics are involved, the cost is immensely higher. Monica Lewinski didn't get the payout Greta did. I doubt Greta got an appropriate amount of money. It's even worse for Greta. Her fame isn't with her allies. Hence this article. If it were her allies talking about her, then why stop talking? What she wants is her political opponents to stop talking about her. Even contemporary she was never a hero for her side, her fame derived through being mocked.
- eesmith 4y ago
  Huh?! That's not at all what the article is about. It's about how politicians and the media co-opt her as the main spokesperson when she doesn't want that role. She's one of the "white, Northern Europeans concerned less about the present than the future." Why focus on her instead of "activists from around the world for whom climate change was real, pressing and immediate"? > Her parents abused her As the article points out "In her early teens, Thunberg became sick. She ceased eating and talking. Activism, both Thunberg and her parents have said, was her salvation." > politicians abused her further by giving her the stage I think the word you want is "used", not "abused". > What she wants is her political opponents to stop talking about her. No. She wants other voices to be heard. Quoting the article: ] Thunberg, now 19, is being driven by a different message: Listen to the most vulnerable — and help them build the fair future they demand.
  - incomingpain 4y ago
    >It's about how politicians and the media co-opt her as the main spokesperson when she doesn't want that role. While this is what I said. The big difference is that last part about how she didnt want that role. Sorry but if you travel the world and make the effort to speak. You WANT that. If you don't want to be something, you sit at home and watch tv. She wanted to be there, she took the role and is now upset about the consequences. >She's one of the "white, Northern Europeans concerned less about the present than the future." Why focus on her instead of "activists from around the world for whom climate change was real, pressing and immediate"? Yes I understand this and agree. The reality is that using her as a political tool blew up in their face. Now they are dealing with the consequences. >As the article points out "In her early teens, Thunberg became sick. She ceased eating and talking. Activism, both Thunberg and her parents have said, was her salvation." "My child has mental illness issues, you know what she needs? Not a doctor! She needs to be mocked and abused by political ideologues." That sounds like abuse to me. Her parents are minimum 99% at fault here. >Thunberg, now 19, is being driven by a different message: Listen to the most vulnerable — and help them build the fair future they demand. The actual political issue of climate change is irrelevant here. There are tons of climate activists around. As I mentioned, Greta's fame isn't from her allies. She is famous because she's an easy sock puppet or perhaps a fallacious strawman of climate change. Greta had the 2 political sides just waiting for mental health to come up but you can't be the first to bring it up. Which as far as I can tell neither side ever pulled the trigger. There's also a rule, length of wikipedia article == length of fame. She will be famous for a very long time. Greta as now an adult has really 1 option or bet. She could sit back and hope climate change is a legitimate issue that blows up in the next few years. Al Gore predicted Florida would be under water in 2014. Perhaps next year that comes suddenly. Millions dead, major cities destroyed. Greta can then make videos about the humanitarian crisis and raise money to help them. While also pushing to do more for climate change. However, until that happens... she gets the status quo which she dislikes. The alternative bet that would return her privacy? The reality is that she's famous because of anti-climate change ideologues. So she needs to break that. Sure bet she'll be very famous for another month or 2 but then she'll be nothing and can go about living her life. Come out against climate change. Say she was abused, she says climate change disinformation got her. That in the last time she investigated and research climate change and it's completely fake. She'll be very popular for a tiny period of time and then go away and have her privacy back.
foolzcrow 4y ago

7 points by chewz 4y ago

Her parents abused her taking her out of school and turning her into a political tool. Worse yet, politicians abused her further by giving her the stage. My understanding she earnt multiple millions doing this. Fame isn't free. It takes significant effort and training to reduce the cost of fame, which Greta obviously never did. Worse yet, when politics are involved, the cost is immensely higher. Monica Lewinski didn't get the payout Greta did. I doubt Greta got an appropriate amount of money. It's even worse for Greta. Her fame isn't with her allies. Hence this article. If it were her allies talking about her, then why stop talking? What she wants is her political opponents to stop talking about her. Even contemporary she was never a hero for her side, her fame derived through being mocked.

eesmith 4y ago
Huh?! That's not at all what the article is about. It's about how politicians and the media co-opt her as the main spokesperson when she doesn't want that role. She's one of the "white, Northern Europeans concerned less about the present than the future." Why focus on her instead of "activists from around the world for whom climate change was real, pressing and immediate"? > Her parents abused her As the article points out "In her early teens, Thunberg became sick. She ceased eating and talking. Activism, both Thunberg and her parents have said, was her salvation." > politicians abused her further by giving her the stage I think the word you want is "used", not "abused". > What she wants is her political opponents to stop talking about her. No. She wants other voices to be heard. Quoting the article: ] Thunberg, now 19, is being driven by a different message: Listen to the most vulnerable — and help them build the fair future they demand.
- incomingpain 4y ago
  >It's about how politicians and the media co-opt her as the main spokesperson when she doesn't want that role. While this is what I said. The big difference is that last part about how she didnt want that role. Sorry but if you travel the world and make the effort to speak. You WANT that. If you don't want to be something, you sit at home and watch tv. She wanted to be there, she took the role and is now upset about the consequences. >She's one of the "white, Northern Europeans concerned less about the present than the future." Why focus on her instead of "activists from around the world for whom climate change was real, pressing and immediate"? Yes I understand this and agree. The reality is that using her as a political tool blew up in their face. Now they are dealing with the consequences. >As the article points out "In her early teens, Thunberg became sick. She ceased eating and talking. Activism, both Thunberg and her parents have said, was her salvation." "My child has mental illness issues, you know what she needs? Not a doctor! She needs to be mocked and abused by political ideologues." That sounds like abuse to me. Her parents are minimum 99% at fault here. >Thunberg, now 19, is being driven by a different message: Listen to the most vulnerable — and help them build the fair future they demand. The actual political issue of climate change is irrelevant here. There are tons of climate activists around. As I mentioned, Greta's fame isn't from her allies. She is famous because she's an easy sock puppet or perhaps a fallacious strawman of climate change. Greta had the 2 political sides just waiting for mental health to come up but you can't be the first to bring it up. Which as far as I can tell neither side ever pulled the trigger. There's also a rule, length of wikipedia article == length of fame. She will be famous for a very long time. Greta as now an adult has really 1 option or bet. She could sit back and hope climate change is a legitimate issue that blows up in the next few years. Al Gore predicted Florida would be under water in 2014. Perhaps next year that comes suddenly. Millions dead, major cities destroyed. Greta can then make videos about the humanitarian crisis and raise money to help them. While also pushing to do more for climate change. However, until that happens... she gets the status quo which she dislikes. The alternative bet that would return her privacy? The reality is that she's famous because of anti-climate change ideologues. So she needs to break that. Sure bet she'll be very famous for another month or 2 but then she'll be nothing and can go about living her life. Come out against climate change. Say she was abused, she says climate change disinformation got her. That in the last time she investigated and research climate change and it's completely fake. She'll be very popular for a tiny period of time and then go away and have her privacy back.

foolzcrow 4y ago