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This sounds great, but still much more effort that dragging+dropping into an online epub->mobi converter and using the nice "email yourself a file" feature they

by and0 4y ago

This sounds great, but still much more effort that dragging+dropping into an online epub->mobi converter and using the nice "email yourself a file" feature they support. Also, epub support is coming and mobi is being deprecated https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/the-amazon-kindle-will-support-epub-in-late-2022 https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/the-amazon-kindle-will-s...

Mindless2112 4y ago
At the end of that article: > Update: It looks like Amazon is converting the uploaded EPUB to KF8 (AZW3). So, it looks like they might not support EPUB natively. So I'm not holding my breath. Which is not to say Amazon couldn't add native EPUB support. KF8/AZW3[1] (Amazon's proprietary ebook format) is basically EPUB in a MOBI shell. But they're moving away from KF8 to KFX[2] for books purchased from the Amazon store. [1] https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KF8 https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KF8 [2] https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KFX https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KFX
- thaumasiotes 4y ago
  > Which is not to say Amazon couldn't add native EPUB support. They've had it in the past; I know there have been Kindle models that included a web browser. Is that gone?
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    They still have a web browser but a web browser is not the same as EPUB support. No Kindle has ever supported epub natively.
    - thaumasiotes 4y ago
      > but a web browser is not the same as EPUB support But a web browser is the same as epub support. If you have a web browser, you have epub support, because rendering HTML is all there is to supporting epub. An epub is nothing but a set of HTML documents.
      - goosedragons 4y ago
        No it isn't. There's more to Epub than HTML and web browsers don't know by default how deal with the files or handle things like pagination or the table of contents. Mobi is also based on HTML too. Doesn't mean every web browser supports mobi either.
        thaumasiotes 4y ago
        > and web browsers don't know by default how deal with the files or handle things like pagination or the table of contents. So? Safari and Chrome don't know by default how to handle pagination of documents. (Actually, they do; they handle it by scrolling.) But any browser that exists on a Kindle does. If you can use it to read a web page, you can also use it to read an epub.
      - adamomada 4y ago
        I had to load a Firefox extension[0] to read ePub. I don’t think it can read them without it. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/epubreader/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/epubreader/
        thaumasiotes 4y ago
        Sure; the book is a website, not a webpage. The harness has to do three things: 1. Unzip the file. 2. Display the content root. 3. Handle the implicit transition from one chapter to the next. All of the work involved here is in step 2, writing the web renderer.

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Mindless2112 4y ago

At the end of that article: > Update: It looks like Amazon is converting the uploaded EPUB to KF8 (AZW3). So, it looks like they might not support EPUB natively. So I'm not holding my breath. Which is not to say Amazon couldn't add native EPUB support. KF8/AZW3[1] (Amazon's proprietary ebook format) is basically EPUB in a MOBI shell. But they're moving away from KF8 to KFX[2] for books purchased from the Amazon store. [1] https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KF8 https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KF8 [2] https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KFX https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/KFX

thaumasiotes 4y ago
> Which is not to say Amazon couldn't add native EPUB support. They've had it in the past; I know there have been Kindle models that included a web browser. Is that gone?
- goosedragons 4y ago
  They still have a web browser but a web browser is not the same as EPUB support. No Kindle has ever supported epub natively.
  - thaumasiotes 4y ago
    > but a web browser is not the same as EPUB support But a web browser is the same as epub support. If you have a web browser, you have epub support, because rendering HTML is all there is to supporting epub. An epub is nothing but a set of HTML documents.
    - goosedragons 4y ago
      No it isn't. There's more to Epub than HTML and web browsers don't know by default how deal with the files or handle things like pagination or the table of contents. Mobi is also based on HTML too. Doesn't mean every web browser supports mobi either.
      - thaumasiotes 4y ago
        > and web browsers don't know by default how deal with the files or handle things like pagination or the table of contents. So? Safari and Chrome don't know by default how to handle pagination of documents. (Actually, they do; they handle it by scrolling.) But any browser that exists on a Kindle does. If you can use it to read a web page, you can also use it to read an epub.
    - adamomada 4y ago
      I had to load a Firefox extension[0] to read ePub. I don’t think it can read them without it. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/epubreader/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/epubreader/
      - thaumasiotes 4y ago
        Sure; the book is a website, not a webpage. The harness has to do three things: 1. Unzip the file. 2. Display the content root. 3. Handle the implicit transition from one chapter to the next. All of the work involved here is in step 2, writing the web renderer.