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I believe I am being civil. I also think bad faith can be demonstrated, and that it has been. >As such, treating Black individuals differently is not more or

I believe I am being civil. I also think bad faith can be demonstrated, and that it has been. >As such, treating Black individuals differently is not more or less wrong than treating short individuals differently. Again, as I have mentioned repeatedly, we agree on this point. Where we disagree is in the assertion that there is "no difference" in effect, precisely because of the historical context.

xvector 5y ago
Historical context does not influence whether an action is right or wrong in itself. You should not need atrocities to be recorded in history to tell you if you are doing the right thing.
- eightails 5y ago
  Deja vu, I have been in this place before. It's amazing how circular the responses in this comment thread are getting. There appears to be disagreement on the surface, but in reality almost everyone is presenting a view which is at least compatible with each other's -- if not in direct agreement.
  - gkop 5y ago
    One side is equivocating “shortism” with racism. The other side is pointing out that that’s fucked up.
    - xvector 5y ago
      It's not fucked up. Racism isn't bad because of the historical context. It's bad because it's bad. "Shortism" is quite literally exactly as bad as racism.
chrischen 5y ago
You keep bringing the argument to the literal definition of “no difference” which no one is arguing against you on. One is heigh and one is race. They aren’t literally the same thing but it’s also clearly not what is being compared here.