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Ehn, didn't Apple over estimate the small phone market? It seemed like a good idea on paper, and there were many vocal supporters on the internet.. but at the e

Ehn, didn't Apple over estimate the small phone market? It seemed like a good idea on paper, and there were many vocal supporters on the internet.. but at the end of the day, it missed expectations.

deadmutex 4y ago
Adding to that, I think there are tradeoffs you typically make with small phones. E.g. worse battery life or slower phones. Given these tradeoffs, people end up not choosing small phones. If you could have same specs as an ultra or a pro in a smaller body, that is a different story.
hedgehog 4y ago
Two things about the iPhone situation make the result not generalize. First, the Mini got a worse camera than the larger models. Second, Apple waited years before reintroducing a small phone so apps including theirs had mostly moved on. The small screen user experience is compromised in a way it wouldn't be if there had been continuity.
- sgerenser 4y ago
  Mini camera is the same as the “regular” 6 inch iPhone, it’s only worse than the “Pro” iPhones.
  - hedgehog 4y ago
    Fair, in my case the camera drives my upgrades and the larger size isn't so annoying it's worth sacrificing photo quality.
jmisavage 4y ago
Apple shot themselves in the foot with pricing. The 13 mini is $699. While the old iPhone 11 which is still sold is $499. The mini is better in every way, but that’s a big price difference. Even the new SE is roughly the same size just with a inferior screen and it’s only $429. The iPad mini is in the same boat now too. It used to be the most popular iPad for a while because it was also the cheapest. But then they started updating it and moving it up the pricing ladder. It’s basically a smaller version of the Air except that just got updated to a M1.
- Markoff 4y ago
  this you can have either nice mini for 50% extra over SE or archaic design for reasonable price and then people are surprised why these are not selling, maybe just maybe how about providing nice design for reasonable price? but of course that world cannibalize sales of other models they wanna push, so let's blame the small phones for the record Samsung S10e was best selling Samsung model in Czechia the year it was released people argue that S22 has similar dimensions (4mm longer), but with no SD card, no jack, but most importantly starting price was roughly 10% higher than S10e and with S10e the price dropped after 3.5 months 30%, while with S22 we see less than 10% drop after 2.5 months and I doubt they will catch up the drop in the one month

Ehn, didn't Apple over estimate the small phone market? It seemed like a good idea on paper, and there were many vocal supporters on the internet.. but at the end of the day, it missed expectations.

deadmutex 4y ago

Adding to that, I think there are tradeoffs you typically make with small phones. E.g. worse battery life or slower phones. Given these tradeoffs, people end up not choosing small phones. If you could have same specs as an ultra or a pro in a smaller body, that is a different story.

hedgehog 4y ago

Two things about the iPhone situation make the result not generalize. First, the Mini got a worse camera than the larger models. Second, Apple waited years before reintroducing a small phone so apps including theirs had mostly moved on. The small screen user experience is compromised in a way it wouldn't be if there had been continuity.

sgerenser 4y ago
Mini camera is the same as the “regular” 6 inch iPhone, it’s only worse than the “Pro” iPhones.
- hedgehog 4y ago
  Fair, in my case the camera drives my upgrades and the larger size isn't so annoying it's worth sacrificing photo quality.

jmisavage 4y ago

Apple shot themselves in the foot with pricing. The 13 mini is $699. While the old iPhone 11 which is still sold is $499. The mini is better in every way, but that’s a big price difference. Even the new SE is roughly the same size just with a inferior screen and it’s only $429. The iPad mini is in the same boat now too. It used to be the most popular iPad for a while because it was also the cheapest. But then they started updating it and moving it up the pricing ladder. It’s basically a smaller version of the Air except that just got updated to a M1.

Markoff 4y ago
this you can have either nice mini for 50% extra over SE or archaic design for reasonable price and then people are surprised why these are not selling, maybe just maybe how about providing nice design for reasonable price? but of course that world cannibalize sales of other models they wanna push, so let's blame the small phones for the record Samsung S10e was best selling Samsung model in Czechia the year it was released people argue that S22 has similar dimensions (4mm longer), but with no SD card, no jack, but most importantly starting price was roughly 10% higher than S10e and with S10e the price dropped after 3.5 months 30%, while with S22 we see less than 10% drop after 2.5 months and I doubt they will catch up the drop in the one month