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Are you going to provide the full quote?

somewhereoutth 4y ago
It's in the link, but for convenience: “I think the people of this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong.” I don't think the full quote changes the essence - after all, experts typically belong to organisations with acronyms, their job is to say what they know is best, and 'consistently wrong' is a matter of opinion likely not supported by any evidence. Turns out everything the experts said about Brexit was in fact correct. The latest news is that we are delaying import checks until at least 2023 - our farmers have to go through mountains of paperwork to sell a turnip in Turin, whereas Belgium beef sails straight through onto our plates. But we have also had enough of exports (and farming I suppose), so that is all ok.
- native_samples 4y ago
  > Turns out everything the experts said about Brexit was in fact correct You're completely wrong. The trigger for that quote was "experts" claiming that a vote to leave would immediately trigger a massive recession in which 800,000 jobs would be lost. Not actually leaving, just voting to leave. This claim was hugely important because it was used to justify the threat of massive tax rises and pension cuts if Leave won. In turn that boosted the remain vote significantly, often by scaring pensioners who would otherwise have been supporting Leave. In reality the economy grew after the vote. There was no change in the growth trend at all. The experts were humiliated. Not just wrong in scale but wrong in direction. Moreover, there was no post-mortem or explanation of why they were wrong. Instead they did what you're doing here: immediately try and erase their massive "error" from history. The experts turned out to be idiots. The people who wanted to vote leave but chose remain because they were afraid of the expert predicted recession were taken for a ride. And whilst those who lost keep trying to memory hole this history, the rest of us won't forget.
  - somewhereoutth 4y ago
    An old and well loved tree on the village green was torn down because a bunch of self serving criminals convinced the mob its shade spread evil. Indeed, the rest of us won't forget.

It's in the link, but for convenience: “I think the people of this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong.” I don't think the full quote changes the essence - after all, experts typically belong to organisations with acronyms, their job is to say what they know is best, and 'consistently wrong' is a matter of opinion likely not supported by any evidence. Turns out everything the experts said about Brexit was in fact correct. The latest news is that we are delaying import checks until at least 2023 - our farmers have to go through mountains of paperwork to sell a turnip in Turin, whereas Belgium beef sails straight through onto our plates. But we have also had enough of exports (and farming I suppose), so that is all ok.

native_samples 4y ago
> Turns out everything the experts said about Brexit was in fact correct You're completely wrong. The trigger for that quote was "experts" claiming that a vote to leave would immediately trigger a massive recession in which 800,000 jobs would be lost. Not actually leaving, just voting to leave. This claim was hugely important because it was used to justify the threat of massive tax rises and pension cuts if Leave won. In turn that boosted the remain vote significantly, often by scaring pensioners who would otherwise have been supporting Leave. In reality the economy grew after the vote. There was no change in the growth trend at all. The experts were humiliated. Not just wrong in scale but wrong in direction. Moreover, there was no post-mortem or explanation of why they were wrong. Instead they did what you're doing here: immediately try and erase their massive "error" from history. The experts turned out to be idiots. The people who wanted to vote leave but chose remain because they were afraid of the expert predicted recession were taken for a ride. And whilst those who lost keep trying to memory hole this history, the rest of us won't forget.
- somewhereoutth 4y ago
  An old and well loved tree on the village green was torn down because a bunch of self serving criminals convinced the mob its shade spread evil. Indeed, the rest of us won't forget.