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> Did you know that there are no grocery stores in the city? Did you know that's not true, at all? There are quite a few grocery stores in Detroit. It's not a

by zbuc 15y ago

> Did you know that there are no grocery stores in the city? Did you know that's not true, at all? There are quite a few grocery stores in Detroit. It's not a "food desert" like the media would tell you. Stop believing lies and anecdotal evidence and your failed assumptions from living far away from the city itself. Did you know that downtown Detroit proper has a lower crime rate than basically every other major city in the US?

rick888 15y ago
There are no main chain grocery stores (like Meijer) in Detroit proper. So I guess there are some grocery stores, but not quality ones. "Stop believing lies and anecdotal evidence and your failed assumptions from living far away from the city itself." These aren't assumptions. By continuing to deny the problems with Detroit, it will never get better. This is exactly what has been happening for years. The population continued to deny that Kwame was nothing but a corrupt thug and the city suffered as a result (in crime and people leaving). "Did you know that downtown Detroit proper has a lower crime rate than basically every other major city in the US?" Like I said, right downtown is fine. You go even a mile outside the main strip, and it's worse than almost any city in the US. I know, I've been there many times in the last year. You can't safely live and work in a city like this.
- joem32 15y ago
  Rick, I'm in Detroit regularly, and the worst thing that's ever happened is a homeless person asked me for my change. You are right that a mile, let alone a few blocks out can be sketchy in spots... but if you've got half a brain, you dont go there. In recognition of some awesome clean up efforts, parts of the Cass Corridor, which used to be the nearest thing to No-Man's land is cleaned up, and awesome. In fact, I spent a day down there with friends and family over the summer. As for doing business in downtown, it's honestly been a joy for me. I look forward to going to Detroit. The city has awesome character and I'd like to be a part of the resurgence. Is it going to happen overnight, NO. Are efforts in place to make it an exemplar city, you bet. I'll close by saying Rome wasn't (re)built in a day.
- ironchef 15y ago
  "So I guess there are some grocery stores, but not quality ones." I disagree. Check out (next time you're in the city) honeybee. It's an _awesome_ grocery store. After that I've been to a variety of the mercados as well as some of the more common spartan stores (not my faves...i'd make the drive for honeybee most of the time if i needed stuff...but it's a fairly large chain). Also, there's eastern market, which is pretty nice (although I'm pretty partial to the farmer's markets in chicago these days). "You can't safely live and work in a city like this." YOU can't, but i sure can. I've lived and worked near a variety of projects in other cities as well. It's a city. There are bad elements... like any other city. If you got mugged in NYC would you say you can't safely live and work in a city like NYC? Of course not. That's not to say detroit is for you. Some people can handle environments like that. Others can't. It's cool. I would have a horrible time dealing with living and working in Haiti (i would think), but I have friends who deal with it just fine.

by zbuc 15y ago

rick888 15y ago

There are no main chain grocery stores (like Meijer) in Detroit proper. So I guess there are some grocery stores, but not quality ones. "Stop believing lies and anecdotal evidence and your failed assumptions from living far away from the city itself." These aren't assumptions. By continuing to deny the problems with Detroit, it will never get better. This is exactly what has been happening for years. The population continued to deny that Kwame was nothing but a corrupt thug and the city suffered as a result (in crime and people leaving). "Did you know that downtown Detroit proper has a lower crime rate than basically every other major city in the US?" Like I said, right downtown is fine. You go even a mile outside the main strip, and it's worse than almost any city in the US. I know, I've been there many times in the last year. You can't safely live and work in a city like this.

joem32 15y ago
Rick, I'm in Detroit regularly, and the worst thing that's ever happened is a homeless person asked me for my change. You are right that a mile, let alone a few blocks out can be sketchy in spots... but if you've got half a brain, you dont go there. In recognition of some awesome clean up efforts, parts of the Cass Corridor, which used to be the nearest thing to No-Man's land is cleaned up, and awesome. In fact, I spent a day down there with friends and family over the summer. As for doing business in downtown, it's honestly been a joy for me. I look forward to going to Detroit. The city has awesome character and I'd like to be a part of the resurgence. Is it going to happen overnight, NO. Are efforts in place to make it an exemplar city, you bet. I'll close by saying Rome wasn't (re)built in a day.
ironchef 15y ago
"So I guess there are some grocery stores, but not quality ones." I disagree. Check out (next time you're in the city) honeybee. It's an _awesome_ grocery store. After that I've been to a variety of the mercados as well as some of the more common spartan stores (not my faves...i'd make the drive for honeybee most of the time if i needed stuff...but it's a fairly large chain). Also, there's eastern market, which is pretty nice (although I'm pretty partial to the farmer's markets in chicago these days). "You can't safely live and work in a city like this." YOU can't, but i sure can. I've lived and worked near a variety of projects in other cities as well. It's a city. There are bad elements... like any other city. If you got mugged in NYC would you say you can't safely live and work in a city like NYC? Of course not. That's not to say detroit is for you. Some people can handle environments like that. Others can't. It's cool. I would have a horrible time dealing with living and working in Haiti (i would think), but I have friends who deal with it just fine.