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Basing that entirely on the UI seems like a really superficial view of what goes into both Android and iOS. If it was just a matter of ripping off the UI, Micro

Basing that entirely on the UI seems like a really superficial view of what goes into both Android and iOS. If it was just a matter of ripping off the UI, Microsoft, RIM and Palm would still be in the game.

mbreese 15y ago
They aren't basing it off of UI as much as form-factor... and that is hardly superficial.
- ajross 15y ago
  Nor, as was pointed out, is it an Apple invention. You could just as easily claim that Apple and Google ripped off the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)
  - jessedhillon 15y ago
    It was pointed out by you, and it was irrelevant. Nobody claimed it was an Apple invention, and if you want to go down this slippery slope let's attribute everything to the first guy who put pixels on a screen. I'm certain everything else in the history of application development and user interfaces derives from that as a plainly obvious application.
    - ajross 15y ago
      Then you agree with me that Apple didn't invent the UI or form factor, and merely aggregated/imitated/improved on the work of others. Which is exactly the same thing Google did with Android. So... what are we arguing about?
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  - Zash 15y ago
    Or claim that all of them ripped off Neonode
  - schiffern 15y ago
    Images of the LG Prada were first leaked on Dec 15, 2006. The iPhone was announced on Jan 9, 2007. It's hard to imagine that Apple revamped the entire form-factor of their two-year phone project in 25 days.
    - vetinari 15y ago
      LG Prada was first presented in September 2006, so you could add another 90 days to the 25 figure.
- tomkarlo 15y ago
  The form-factor is definitely part of the UI/UX of these devices. I'm sure Apple had various wacky prototypes as well that never made it to market.
jessedhillon 15y ago
I think it's pretty clear that the article is written from the perspective of a user, and the critiques are mainly about user experience. At that level of use, it doesn't matter if they have original kernels or innovative dev environments (except that they create greater availability of high-quality apps)

mbreese 15y ago

They aren't basing it off of UI as much as form-factor... and that is hardly superficial.

ajross 15y ago
Nor, as was pointed out, is it an Apple invention. You could just as easily claim that Apple and Google ripped off the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)
- jessedhillon 15y ago
  It was pointed out by you, and it was irrelevant. Nobody claimed it was an Apple invention, and if you want to go down this slippery slope let's attribute everything to the first guy who put pixels on a screen. I'm certain everything else in the history of application development and user interfaces derives from that as a plainly obvious application.
  - ajross 15y ago
    Then you agree with me that Apple didn't invent the UI or form factor, and merely aggregated/imitated/improved on the work of others. Which is exactly the same thing Google did with Android. So... what are we arguing about?
    - deleted 15y ago
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- Zash 15y ago
  Or claim that all of them ripped off Neonode
- schiffern 15y ago
  Images of the LG Prada were first leaked on Dec 15, 2006. The iPhone was announced on Jan 9, 2007. It's hard to imagine that Apple revamped the entire form-factor of their two-year phone project in 25 days.
  - vetinari 15y ago
    LG Prada was first presented in September 2006, so you could add another 90 days to the 25 figure.
tomkarlo 15y ago
The form-factor is definitely part of the UI/UX of these devices. I'm sure Apple had various wacky prototypes as well that never made it to market.

jessedhillon 15y ago

I think it's pretty clear that the article is written from the perspective of a user, and the critiques are mainly about user experience. At that level of use, it doesn't matter if they have original kernels or innovative dev environments (except that they create greater availability of high-quality apps)