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> The truth always (eventually) rises to the top. Yes but sometimes things like the holocaust (Hitlers big lie) & the Khmer Rouge (kill all smart people & lite

by s5300 4y ago

> The truth always (eventually) rises to the top. Yes but sometimes things like the holocaust (Hitlers big lie) & the Khmer Rouge (kill all smart people & literally anybody who might even look “smart”) happen before that. Do we want such things happening again? There’s currently a large amount of a political party that wants to straight up murder the other in open season. The other wants like… healthcare, & equal rights (in actual practice, not just written) for minorities.

zozbot234 4y ago
Okay, we'll censor the #KillAllMen hashtag and the like since imminent threats are not covered under "free speech".
- s5300 4y ago
  Not sure what this has to do with anything being discussed but it definitely lets me infer the butthurt type of person you must be.
- jcranmer 4y ago
  > Okay, we'll censor the #KillAllMen hashtag and the like since imminent threats are not covered under "free speech". Actually, under the Brandenburg v Ohio standard... they're constitutionally-protected free speech. To be illegal, you have to pretty much be speaking to a mob, pointing to someone, and saying "kill that person."
  - xigoi 4y ago
    So, by this logic #KillAllJews is alright?
    - jcranmer 4y ago
      If by 'alright' you mean 'legal in the US', yes.
      - xigoi 4y ago
        I don't really care about what's legal in the US; I don't live there. This is a question of morality.
        tptacek 4y ago
        That's pretty clearly not what you meant above.
Mikeb85 4y ago
Pretty sure those atrocities happened because of regimes that CENSORED the truth... Not because the Nazis and Khmer Rouge were free-speech advocates SMH. Edit - also the Khmer Rouge started off as guerilla fighters supported by foreign powers (China, Vietnam) who won a civil war then purged their enemies/smart people. They didn't come to power because of 'free speech' or whatever point you think you're making. As for the Nazis, they literally outlawed free speech after consolidating their power SMH.

by s5300 4y ago

zozbot234 4y ago

Okay, we'll censor the #KillAllMen hashtag and the like since imminent threats are not covered under "free speech".

s5300 4y ago
Not sure what this has to do with anything being discussed but it definitely lets me infer the butthurt type of person you must be.
jcranmer 4y ago
> Okay, we'll censor the #KillAllMen hashtag and the like since imminent threats are not covered under "free speech". Actually, under the Brandenburg v Ohio standard... they're constitutionally-protected free speech. To be illegal, you have to pretty much be speaking to a mob, pointing to someone, and saying "kill that person."
- xigoi 4y ago
  So, by this logic #KillAllJews is alright?
  - jcranmer 4y ago
    If by 'alright' you mean 'legal in the US', yes.
    - xigoi 4y ago
      I don't really care about what's legal in the US; I don't live there. This is a question of morality.
      - tptacek 4y ago
        That's pretty clearly not what you meant above.

Mikeb85 4y ago

Pretty sure those atrocities happened because of regimes that CENSORED the truth... Not because the Nazis and Khmer Rouge were free-speech advocates SMH. Edit - also the Khmer Rouge started off as guerilla fighters supported by foreign powers (China, Vietnam) who won a civil war then purged their enemies/smart people. They didn't come to power because of 'free speech' or whatever point you think you're making. As for the Nazis, they literally outlawed free speech after consolidating their power SMH.