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There is a link in the very next sentence that illustrates what he's talking about[1]. Yes Android was a product before 2007, but as he says (and as the photos

There is a link in the very next sentence that illustrates what he's talking about[1]. Yes Android was a product before 2007, but as he says (and as the photos suggest), Android post-2007 was a much different beast. There's also this question on Quora[2]. IMO, it was much closer to the BlackBerry. [1] http://random.andrewwarner.com/what-googles-android-looked-like-before-and-after-the-launch-of-iphone/ http://random.andrewwarner.com/what-googles-android-looked-l... [2] http://www.quora.com/Android-OS/What-did-Android-look-like-before-the-iPhone-was-unveiled http://www.quora.com/Android-OS/What-did-Android-look-like-b...

tomkarlo 15y ago
Basing that entirely on the UI seems like a really superficial view of what goes into both Android and iOS. If it was just a matter of ripping off the UI, Microsoft, RIM and Palm would still be in the game.
- mbreese 15y ago
  They aren't basing it off of UI as much as form-factor... and that is hardly superficial.
  - ajross 15y ago
    Nor, as was pointed out, is it an Apple invention. You could just as easily claim that Apple and Google ripped off the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)
    - jessedhillon 15y ago
      It was pointed out by you, and it was irrelevant. Nobody claimed it was an Apple invention, and if you want to go down this slippery slope let's attribute everything to the first guy who put pixels on a screen. I'm certain everything else in the history of application development and user interfaces derives from that as a plainly obvious application.
      - ajross 15y ago
        Then you agree with me that Apple didn't invent the UI or form factor, and merely aggregated/imitated/improved on the work of others. Which is exactly the same thing Google did with Android. So... what are we arguing about?
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    - Zash 15y ago
      Or claim that all of them ripped off Neonode
    - schiffern 15y ago
      Images of the LG Prada were first leaked on Dec 15, 2006. The iPhone was announced on Jan 9, 2007. It's hard to imagine that Apple revamped the entire form-factor of their two-year phone project in 25 days.
      - vetinari 15y ago
        LG Prada was first presented in September 2006, so you could add another 90 days to the 25 figure.
  - tomkarlo 15y ago
    The form-factor is definitely part of the UI/UX of these devices. I'm sure Apple had various wacky prototypes as well that never made it to market.
- jessedhillon 15y ago
  I think it's pretty clear that the article is written from the perspective of a user, and the critiques are mainly about user experience. At that level of use, it doesn't matter if they have original kernels or innovative dev environments (except that they create greater availability of high-quality apps)
mladenkovacevic 15y ago
True... but who gives a shit. I don't know why articles like this always demand some homage be paid to Apple. Apple did a great job with certain key elements of the user experience and Android jumped on board. As somebody buying one phone or the other it really doesn't concern me who invented it. Same thing on the other side of the argument. Android had notifications first.. and now iOS5 has them too. I really don't care who "made it all possible" If I'm buying a sexy-looking stainless steel oven made by Samsung... I couldn't care less that General Electric was the genius that made the first one.

tomkarlo 15y ago

Basing that entirely on the UI seems like a really superficial view of what goes into both Android and iOS. If it was just a matter of ripping off the UI, Microsoft, RIM and Palm would still be in the game.

mbreese 15y ago
They aren't basing it off of UI as much as form-factor... and that is hardly superficial.
- ajross 15y ago
  Nor, as was pointed out, is it an Apple invention. You could just as easily claim that Apple and Google ripped off the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)
  - jessedhillon 15y ago
    It was pointed out by you, and it was irrelevant. Nobody claimed it was an Apple invention, and if you want to go down this slippery slope let's attribute everything to the first guy who put pixels on a screen. I'm certain everything else in the history of application development and user interfaces derives from that as a plainly obvious application.
    - ajross 15y ago
      Then you agree with me that Apple didn't invent the UI or form factor, and merely aggregated/imitated/improved on the work of others. Which is exactly the same thing Google did with Android. So... what are we arguing about?
      - deleted 15y ago
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  - Zash 15y ago
    Or claim that all of them ripped off Neonode
  - schiffern 15y ago
    Images of the LG Prada were first leaked on Dec 15, 2006. The iPhone was announced on Jan 9, 2007. It's hard to imagine that Apple revamped the entire form-factor of their two-year phone project in 25 days.
    - vetinari 15y ago
      LG Prada was first presented in September 2006, so you could add another 90 days to the 25 figure.
- tomkarlo 15y ago
  The form-factor is definitely part of the UI/UX of these devices. I'm sure Apple had various wacky prototypes as well that never made it to market.
jessedhillon 15y ago
I think it's pretty clear that the article is written from the perspective of a user, and the critiques are mainly about user experience. At that level of use, it doesn't matter if they have original kernels or innovative dev environments (except that they create greater availability of high-quality apps)

mladenkovacevic 15y ago

True... but who gives a shit. I don't know why articles like this always demand some homage be paid to Apple. Apple did a great job with certain key elements of the user experience and Android jumped on board. As somebody buying one phone or the other it really doesn't concern me who invented it. Same thing on the other side of the argument. Android had notifications first.. and now iOS5 has them too. I really don't care who "made it all possible" If I'm buying a sexy-looking stainless steel oven made by Samsung... I couldn't care less that General Electric was the genius that made the first one.