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Men are most often victims of violence generally including murder as well. You wouldn't get that impression reading the news. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Viole

Men are most often victims of violence generally including murder as well. You wouldn't get that impression reading the news. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men

ZeroGravitas 5y ago
Depends on whether you interpret something being on the news as a measure of how common it is. This is often demonstrated with the two hypothetical headlines "Dog bites Man" vs "Man bites Dog". One is expected based on its ubiquity, and so a poor headline, where you want some emotional reaction to hook readers.
- mellosouls 5y ago
  True - and a good point - but also a troubling one as the clear implication is that male suffering is really not considered a concern - at least to the news platforms.
  - FrenchAmerican 5y ago
    Or maybe we don't care much about what happens in our jails. As if being raped in jail was part of the sentence. Note that rape is only the extreme form of the violence that inmates, mostly males, endure. I can't see where the suffering of men would be silenced because of their gender. On the contrary, at last, more and more often men express their suffering, which is great because the "silent strong" man used to be the reference. Men as warriors don't ever complain etc. There are more and more often in the news men stating their feelings: veterans with PTSD, Johnny Depp courageously telling how he has been abused by his partner, men denouncing being on verge of burning-out at work etc. As a man, I consider that yes, there is still plenty of men suffering in silence. And that needs to come out. The more men are able to get over the silent strong man figure - John Wayne! - inherited from the past, the more the media will talk about it. Nobody is silencing the suffering of men ; the men need to reconnect with their feelings and learn to express them. Most women are more able to express their feelings and they are indeed "silenced" - even if less and less so. An example? The "mental load". In many modern heterosexual couples, the woman is still in charge of the general on-going of the home, and the man goes to work without that load. When he comes home, he waits to be asked or just does the minimum. If you have ever been in charge of a project at work and your colleagues are only participants, you know very well the difference. Being in charge of the general coordination, ensure that everything is done when required, is quite a load. Things are improving. Slowly.
    - mellosouls 5y ago
      Much of what you say is true but my point was about the coverage of these issues in mainstream news. I don't think this is particularly a male silence problem.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

Depends on whether you interpret something being on the news as a measure of how common it is. This is often demonstrated with the two hypothetical headlines "Dog bites Man" vs "Man bites Dog". One is expected based on its ubiquity, and so a poor headline, where you want some emotional reaction to hook readers.

mellosouls 5y ago
True - and a good point - but also a troubling one as the clear implication is that male suffering is really not considered a concern - at least to the news platforms.
- FrenchAmerican 5y ago
  Or maybe we don't care much about what happens in our jails. As if being raped in jail was part of the sentence. Note that rape is only the extreme form of the violence that inmates, mostly males, endure. I can't see where the suffering of men would be silenced because of their gender. On the contrary, at last, more and more often men express their suffering, which is great because the "silent strong" man used to be the reference. Men as warriors don't ever complain etc. There are more and more often in the news men stating their feelings: veterans with PTSD, Johnny Depp courageously telling how he has been abused by his partner, men denouncing being on verge of burning-out at work etc. As a man, I consider that yes, there is still plenty of men suffering in silence. And that needs to come out. The more men are able to get over the silent strong man figure - John Wayne! - inherited from the past, the more the media will talk about it. Nobody is silencing the suffering of men ; the men need to reconnect with their feelings and learn to express them. Most women are more able to express their feelings and they are indeed "silenced" - even if less and less so. An example? The "mental load". In many modern heterosexual couples, the woman is still in charge of the general on-going of the home, and the man goes to work without that load. When he comes home, he waits to be asked or just does the minimum. If you have ever been in charge of a project at work and your colleagues are only participants, you know very well the difference. Being in charge of the general coordination, ensure that everything is done when required, is quite a load. Things are improving. Slowly.
  - mellosouls 5y ago
    Much of what you say is true but my point was about the coverage of these issues in mainstream news. I don't think this is particularly a male silence problem.