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Climate change in action, only going to get worse.

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refurb 4y ago
Article says this isn’t a record high so what do you mean? This may surprise people, but places near the equator are really god damn hot most of the time and when they have a heat wave it’s even hotter.
- Etheryte 4y ago
  Climate change isn't only new record high temperatures. It's also, as described in the article, temperatures consistently being higher than is regular for this time of the year.
  - Bombthecat 4y ago
    It's the new normal now. People already think that the avarage temperature in the last 3 years was always like that
  - refurb 4y ago
    How do you tell "climate change" heat waves from "non-climate change" heat waves? I mean "heat waves" are not some recent phenomenon. I mean, any farmer can tell you some growing seasons are really warm, others cold, some very dry and others very wet. No two seasons are the same.
    - Etheryte 4y ago
      This is more or less covered in the article as well: > Meteorologists from the India Meteorological Department (IMD) found that March 2022 was the hottest March for India as a whole since 1901, with average highs jumping to a staggering 3.35 degrees Fahrenheit (1.86 degrees Celsius) above the climatological average. Heat waves happen, and have happened before, but if they become more common, longer, hotter on average etc you can see this in the statistics.
      - refurb 4y ago
        If the last time this happened was 1901 (but 1901 was hotter), it doesn't sound "more common"? It's literally more than 100 years since the last time this level of heat occurred. Sounds similar to 100-year floods?
        atq2119 4y ago
        My understanding is that 1901 wasn't particularly hot. They mention 1901 because that's when systematic collection of weather data began.
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        refurb 4y ago
        "Meteorologists from the India Meteorological Department (IMD) found that March 2022 was the hottest March for India as a whole since 1901".
        Etheryte 4y ago
        As the other comment already pointed out, the study linked in the article [0] makes it clear that it's not the case that 1901 was the hottest March, but instead 1901 is the year that data gathering began. The warmest March on record was 2010. > Characteristics of Average maximum, minimum and mean temperature for the country as a whole and over four homogenous region during March 2022 and its comparison since 1901 > [...] > The country averaged monthly mean temperatures of 26.67ºC is the second warmest since 1901 (The warmest year on record was 2010 (26.671 ºC)). [0] https://internal.imd.gov.in/press_release/20220402_pr_1551.pdf https://internal.imd.gov.in/press_release/20220402_pr_1551.p...
        refurb 4y ago
        By 1 thousandth of a degree C?
    - thinkingemote 4y ago
      You cannot tell the difference between types of events. However the science says that the frequency increases. That is what is actually the thing that climate change models say: more exteme weather events. Climate != Weather But climate shapes weather.
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pawsforthought 4y ago
Is nature going to put a stop to our rape of this planet by directly killing millions (maybe billions) through heat, fire, flooding, famine, drought, etc.? Is that what it will take? Am I wrong to be despondent about our capability as a species to prevent this coming catastrophe any other way?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > Is that what it will take? Probably. That said, the brunt will be born by the poor. America may face a deep recession. India, starvation and a political reboot.
  - K0balt 4y ago
    Even if all humans on the planet went to zero emissions tomorrow it is too late. We are now inside a feedback loop that will push temperature rise to +20c and sea levels up 200m or more within 200 years. Photosynthesis drops off to zero long before then. Geoengineering is the only way we don’t go extinct along with most animals.
    - G3rn0ti 4y ago
      Dear doomsayer: Citation needed.
    - javajosh 4y ago
      Well you're in luck because it's likely we'll have a nuclear war soon, and that will put plenty of aerosols in the atomosphere, and cool things down.
      - kibwen 4y ago
        Bad news: nuclear winter isn't actually a thing, so after the bombs drop we'll still be stuck with runaway climate change.
      - bitL 4y ago
        That is just a temporary band-aid, lasting like 8 years tops. Are we going to nuke each other regularly? Do we have enough nukes for a permanent climate change? How can we make sure we have a sufficient supply of nukes for that?
Bombthecat 4y ago
Yes, and i dont see anyway to change it. It will just get worse and we will do nothing. I can see several million or even billion people die in the next 20 to 30 years.
- natly 4y ago
  You're being downvoted but this is pretty much what we should expect to happen (unless we take real action). A zero sum mess for livable spaces for some decades. I'm sure humanity will be awesome again in like 2300 once we get out of it and the wisdom of the mistakes are engrained in the new culture (it'd be wonderful to see).
- WaxedChewbacca 4y ago

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Article says this isn’t a record high so what do you mean? This may surprise people, but places near the equator are really god damn hot most of the time and when they have a heat wave it’s even hotter.

Etheryte 4y ago
Climate change isn't only new record high temperatures. It's also, as described in the article, temperatures consistently being higher than is regular for this time of the year.
- Bombthecat 4y ago
  It's the new normal now. People already think that the avarage temperature in the last 3 years was always like that
- refurb 4y ago
  How do you tell "climate change" heat waves from "non-climate change" heat waves? I mean "heat waves" are not some recent phenomenon. I mean, any farmer can tell you some growing seasons are really warm, others cold, some very dry and others very wet. No two seasons are the same.
  - Etheryte 4y ago
    This is more or less covered in the article as well: > Meteorologists from the India Meteorological Department (IMD) found that March 2022 was the hottest March for India as a whole since 1901, with average highs jumping to a staggering 3.35 degrees Fahrenheit (1.86 degrees Celsius) above the climatological average. Heat waves happen, and have happened before, but if they become more common, longer, hotter on average etc you can see this in the statistics.
    - refurb 4y ago
      If the last time this happened was 1901 (but 1901 was hotter), it doesn't sound "more common"? It's literally more than 100 years since the last time this level of heat occurred. Sounds similar to 100-year floods?
      - atq2119 4y ago
        My understanding is that 1901 wasn't particularly hot. They mention 1901 because that's when systematic collection of weather data began.
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        refurb 4y ago
        "Meteorologists from the India Meteorological Department (IMD) found that March 2022 was the hottest March for India as a whole since 1901".
        Etheryte 4y ago
        As the other comment already pointed out, the study linked in the article [0] makes it clear that it's not the case that 1901 was the hottest March, but instead 1901 is the year that data gathering began. The warmest March on record was 2010. > Characteristics of Average maximum, minimum and mean temperature for the country as a whole and over four homogenous region during March 2022 and its comparison since 1901 > [...] > The country averaged monthly mean temperatures of 26.67ºC is the second warmest since 1901 (The warmest year on record was 2010 (26.671 ºC)). [0] https://internal.imd.gov.in/press_release/20220402_pr_1551.pdf https://internal.imd.gov.in/press_release/20220402_pr_1551.p...
        refurb 4y ago
        By 1 thousandth of a degree C?
  - thinkingemote 4y ago
    You cannot tell the difference between types of events. However the science says that the frequency increases. That is what is actually the thing that climate change models say: more exteme weather events. Climate != Weather But climate shapes weather.
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pawsforthought 4y ago

Is nature going to put a stop to our rape of this planet by directly killing millions (maybe billions) through heat, fire, flooding, famine, drought, etc.? Is that what it will take? Am I wrong to be despondent about our capability as a species to prevent this coming catastrophe any other way?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> Is that what it will take? Probably. That said, the brunt will be born by the poor. America may face a deep recession. India, starvation and a political reboot.
- K0balt 4y ago
  Even if all humans on the planet went to zero emissions tomorrow it is too late. We are now inside a feedback loop that will push temperature rise to +20c and sea levels up 200m or more within 200 years. Photosynthesis drops off to zero long before then. Geoengineering is the only way we don’t go extinct along with most animals.
  - G3rn0ti 4y ago
    Dear doomsayer: Citation needed.
  - javajosh 4y ago
    Well you're in luck because it's likely we'll have a nuclear war soon, and that will put plenty of aerosols in the atomosphere, and cool things down.
    - kibwen 4y ago
      Bad news: nuclear winter isn't actually a thing, so after the bombs drop we'll still be stuck with runaway climate change.
    - bitL 4y ago
      That is just a temporary band-aid, lasting like 8 years tops. Are we going to nuke each other regularly? Do we have enough nukes for a permanent climate change? How can we make sure we have a sufficient supply of nukes for that?

Bombthecat 4y ago

Yes, and i dont see anyway to change it. It will just get worse and we will do nothing. I can see several million or even billion people die in the next 20 to 30 years.

natly 4y ago
You're being downvoted but this is pretty much what we should expect to happen (unless we take real action). A zero sum mess for livable spaces for some decades. I'm sure humanity will be awesome again in like 2300 once we get out of it and the wisdom of the mistakes are engrained in the new culture (it'd be wonderful to see).
WaxedChewbacca 4y ago