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>You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our mult

by Gnob 4y ago

>You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our multipolar societies with a variety of stakeholders. I am not pro riots if they've been out of the blue like that. but I don't think any news media have mentioned the details of the escalation and I am not buying into any story the Swedish media / police / government pushes. >This is a feature, just because you don't see or understand the purpose does not mean it serves no purpose. I am aware a civil society doesn't work like that, but I would assume the police started the aggressive actions, in such a case I think it's justified. because that's what people do in a civil society when the police and the government stands against them. The same way you can get fined or taken to jail if you mock national symbols of some countries like France for example. the only difference is that the first is done by people and the second is done by the legal system, which is also people, but their actions are absolutely morally justified as being 'lawful'. I don't condone riots unless they're systematic, don't harm innocents, and are merely done to cost the government for their actions and are a sign of protesting. That's my personal stand on the subject and I think it's pretty much Islamic as people aren't encouraged to be chaotic or savages in Islam. If you do wonder: How can we manage these savages? just let them alone in peace, stay respectful ( not even to them just to their religion ) and if you have any reasonable question and by any I mean literally "any" just ask it, nobody is going to attack you or hurt you by any means, quite the opposite, if you are attacked they might come and help to stop it. What's the secret sauce? you just understand that a holy book is called a holy book for a reason, and the same way you are ready to die for your values, people and nation they are ready to die for their religion. find that so hard to do, vote to pass a bill for their mass deportation and done. or sign a petition and show them that the majority refuse them staying in the country and I think people will gladly leave, if they don't, back to the first solution. then you can do whatever you like in your own country but please don't export your culture by any means, talk about mutual respect or human rights or draw fancy images of the west to these people, respect that end of the deal pretty well, and done. no more savages causing you any troubles.

AvocadoPanic 4y ago
Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law if you feel it's unjust. Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization.
- Gnob 4y ago
  >Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. Not exactly sure if you're trying to be ironic and consider my comment as fascist of some sort or if you actually agree. >No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law The issue is, you don't have a goddamned chance to change the law if you are a Muslim, unless you're gay or pretty much an ex-Muslim atheist pretending to be a Muslim, otherwise you fall under the "fundamentalist" definition and not a chance in hell you will have ANY important enough political position to be able to change the law. Sorry, doesn't work like that if you're a Muslim, it only works if you are a woman / gay / black or anything your alternative governments decide to make the norm in the future, but it's definitely not going to be Islam or the Muslims so it's pretty futile to even attempt doing that. >Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization. No thanks, people are starting to get aware of this supposed cost and hopefully the majority will leave and the ones who will stay will probably be either the ones who accepted these costs or probably people who are there out of necessity and will shut up or just leave. I'd vote for mass deportation, cutting ties and also mass deporting anyone who supports the west in any shape or form to the west and closing this deal.
  - AvocadoPanic 4y ago
    I was agreeing. I think Islam as practiced by many is incompatible with modern western civilization. I think for stability and peace there needs to be seperation, where people can live in a society where there values are reflected. That said, I'm not pro globohomo and the exportation by the west of degeneracy and sexual perversion needs to be countered. This conflict is not against Swedish police or really even governments, but an unelected cabal that infiltrate and influence civil society through capture of societal institutions.

by Gnob 4y ago

AvocadoPanic 4y ago

Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law if you feel it's unjust. Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization.

Gnob 4y ago
>Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. Not exactly sure if you're trying to be ironic and consider my comment as fascist of some sort or if you actually agree. >No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law The issue is, you don't have a goddamned chance to change the law if you are a Muslim, unless you're gay or pretty much an ex-Muslim atheist pretending to be a Muslim, otherwise you fall under the "fundamentalist" definition and not a chance in hell you will have ANY important enough political position to be able to change the law. Sorry, doesn't work like that if you're a Muslim, it only works if you are a woman / gay / black or anything your alternative governments decide to make the norm in the future, but it's definitely not going to be Islam or the Muslims so it's pretty futile to even attempt doing that. >Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization. No thanks, people are starting to get aware of this supposed cost and hopefully the majority will leave and the ones who will stay will probably be either the ones who accepted these costs or probably people who are there out of necessity and will shut up or just leave. I'd vote for mass deportation, cutting ties and also mass deporting anyone who supports the west in any shape or form to the west and closing this deal.
- AvocadoPanic 4y ago
  I was agreeing. I think Islam as practiced by many is incompatible with modern western civilization. I think for stability and peace there needs to be seperation, where people can live in a society where there values are reflected. That said, I'm not pro globohomo and the exportation by the west of degeneracy and sexual perversion needs to be countered. This conflict is not against Swedish police or really even governments, but an unelected cabal that infiltrate and influence civil society through capture of societal institutions.