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> there is certainly something wrong if people can’t openly discuss taboo truths without being slighted as a racist themselves, utterly dismissed, or censored.

> there is certainly something wrong if people can’t openly discuss taboo truths without being slighted as a racist themselves, utterly dismissed, or censored. There are things that are true and impactful and worth talking about, and some of those conversations get shut down because they make people feel uncomfortable. Your statement is not in that group. There are statements that, while technically true, are misleading. They do not illuminate. They are so _obviously_ cherry-picked from the range of all possible statements that they reveal the bias of the person presenting them. Your statement is in this group. Personally, I’m fine with people who reveal themselves to be racists to be labelled as racists. I’m fine with this category of statements being utterly dismissed. I’m fine with these statements being “censored”, as in people choosing not to publish them.

imapeopleperson 5y ago
My statement is admittedly terse but you’re wrong to dismiss it. The unwillingness to even consider other opinions and the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur) is exactly what’s perpetuating our issues.
- travisjungroth 5y ago
  > you’re wrong to dismiss it. Why? > unwillingness to even consider other opinions What opinions? You labelled something a fact. Do you have an opinion to share? How much of my finite time on Earth do I have to spend on this opinion before I can dismiss it? > and the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur) is exactly what’s perpetuating our issues. No. Definitely not. This is just detached from reality. Think of “our issues”. Whatever that list means to you. Society’s problems, our culture’s conundrums. Now, think of the list of things perpetuating those issues. If you put “the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur)” anywhere near the top of that list, you are caught up in a delusion. I would sincerely suggest taking action to reground yourself.
  - imapeopleperson 5y ago
    It’s not detached from reality in the slightest. This is the crux of the debate on censorship. Biden just created a Ministry of Truth surrounding this issue. You’re just stubbornly attached to your own beliefs. Most people are like this—they don’t like admitting when they were wrong. In general, the reason ‘why’ (above) is because it could benefit you to find a better conclusion if one exists. Do what you want, but very dangerous to burden society with the same handicap
    - travisjungroth 5y ago
      Is the debate on censorship what you meant by “our issues”? I just think there’s much more important stuff going on. Maybe we disagree on this and that’s why your claim seemed ridiculous to me.
zo1 5y ago
I flat out dislike most of current "black" culture, especially the american one, and think it's detrimental to black people and anyone that follows it. Racist or not?
- travisjungroth 5y ago
  > Racist or not? Your example hinges on the definition of the word “racist”. There are credible definitions where the answer would be yes or no. If I had to guess how I’d answer after reading three pages of explanation on this opinion of yours, it would probably be “yes”.

imapeopleperson 5y ago

My statement is admittedly terse but you’re wrong to dismiss it. The unwillingness to even consider other opinions and the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur) is exactly what’s perpetuating our issues.

travisjungroth 5y ago
> you’re wrong to dismiss it. Why? > unwillingness to even consider other opinions What opinions? You labelled something a fact. Do you have an opinion to share? How much of my finite time on Earth do I have to spend on this opinion before I can dismiss it? > and the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur) is exactly what’s perpetuating our issues. No. Definitely not. This is just detached from reality. Think of “our issues”. Whatever that list means to you. Society’s problems, our culture’s conundrums. Now, think of the list of things perpetuating those issues. If you put “the abject expansion of what qualifies as racist (and it’s use as slur)” anywhere near the top of that list, you are caught up in a delusion. I would sincerely suggest taking action to reground yourself.
- imapeopleperson 5y ago
  It’s not detached from reality in the slightest. This is the crux of the debate on censorship. Biden just created a Ministry of Truth surrounding this issue. You’re just stubbornly attached to your own beliefs. Most people are like this—they don’t like admitting when they were wrong. In general, the reason ‘why’ (above) is because it could benefit you to find a better conclusion if one exists. Do what you want, but very dangerous to burden society with the same handicap
  - travisjungroth 5y ago
    Is the debate on censorship what you meant by “our issues”? I just think there’s much more important stuff going on. Maybe we disagree on this and that’s why your claim seemed ridiculous to me.

zo1 5y ago

I flat out dislike most of current "black" culture, especially the american one, and think it's detrimental to black people and anyone that follows it. Racist or not?

travisjungroth 5y ago
> Racist or not? Your example hinges on the definition of the word “racist”. There are credible definitions where the answer would be yes or no. If I had to guess how I’d answer after reading three pages of explanation on this opinion of yours, it would probably be “yes”.