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Yes, agree about the last paragraph 100%. I'm only 19 and got into programming maybe 7 years ago. At the time I was gifted a Raspbery Pi. Next to the infamous S

Yes, agree about the last paragraph 100%. I'm only 19 and got into programming maybe 7 years ago. At the time I was gifted a Raspbery Pi. Next to the infamous Scratch, there were about 10 pygame examples. I got the itch to modify them. Trough trial and error I somehow found the source files and I just started removing code and changing numbers. At some point I started copying lines I've seen and recomposing them. As I wasn't allowed to just go on the internet (yet), some time later I also got a CS book. By studying that, I finally was able to "program" what you would call it. I agree all the way: Don't read about programming. IMHO, taking a (veeery easy, in my case it was Super Simon in ~200L Python) program, game if you wish, and starting to just change stuff around. This gets you comfortable with the concept of coding. "Formal" education (ie. books etc.) are only required once you already are fascinated. This is the advantage of the young: They are not afraid to try out and break things. I'd suggest using this phase of life as it is intended.

xxxtentachyon 4y ago
Can you say more about not being allowed on the internet? Why and how you think it affected you? It’s hard for me to fathom someone at age 12 in 2015 with a somewhat cosmopolitan background (playing games, using an RPi), not being allowed on the internet, period.
- maroonblazer 4y ago
  Not the parent but, as the parent of a 16 year old, I can imagine that some kids at age 12 simply aren't mature enough to be let loose on the internet.
  - jollofricepeas 4y ago
    Yes, this is pretty common. For the most part my friends and work pals who are all software engineers or work closely with tech (DBAs, SREs, Sec). Their children aren’t allowed to use the internet unsupervised or in some cases not at all. Pretty much all of us don’t let our kids use social media. For my friends who don’t work in tech, their kids all have social media and use the internet unsupervised.
    - p1esk 4y ago
      Why not?
      - g42gregory 4y ago
        Internet services are designed to be addictive for kids (and adults). Usually, this addiction is not good for the kids. That’s why my kids are not on the Internet unsupervised.
        donthellbanme 4y ago
        But what do they do when they are at friends homes, or at school all crowded around a iphone in the bathroom. I don't have kids, but there's a part of me that would want them to see the bowels of the internet, and hopefully Never want to see that crap again. I know there are pictures I wish I never saw. I'm so glad I didn't see the toddler whom was raped by a Russian soldier. Putin arrested that soldier I head. If I had children, I don't think I would let them use the internet either. I wonder if their are any good studies on letting children have free access to restricted. Maybe the study couldn't even be legally carried out?
      - KerrAvon 4y ago
        We know the downsides. https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905?lang=en https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905?lang...
      - mostertoaster 4y ago
        What is a four letter word that starts with “P”? That’s a big reason I’d guess.
        bmacho 4y ago
        Tell her don't send pictures, don't give name/address, and don't meet people, and she's safe? (She already should have applied these rules IRL from a much younger age anyway.)
      - 4y ago

xxxtentachyon 4y ago

Can you say more about not being allowed on the internet? Why and how you think it affected you? It’s hard for me to fathom someone at age 12 in 2015 with a somewhat cosmopolitan background (playing games, using an RPi), not being allowed on the internet, period.

maroonblazer 4y ago
Not the parent but, as the parent of a 16 year old, I can imagine that some kids at age 12 simply aren't mature enough to be let loose on the internet.
- jollofricepeas 4y ago
  Yes, this is pretty common. For the most part my friends and work pals who are all software engineers or work closely with tech (DBAs, SREs, Sec). Their children aren’t allowed to use the internet unsupervised or in some cases not at all. Pretty much all of us don’t let our kids use social media. For my friends who don’t work in tech, their kids all have social media and use the internet unsupervised.
  - p1esk 4y ago
    Why not?
    - g42gregory 4y ago
      Internet services are designed to be addictive for kids (and adults). Usually, this addiction is not good for the kids. That’s why my kids are not on the Internet unsupervised.
      - donthellbanme 4y ago
        But what do they do when they are at friends homes, or at school all crowded around a iphone in the bathroom. I don't have kids, but there's a part of me that would want them to see the bowels of the internet, and hopefully Never want to see that crap again. I know there are pictures I wish I never saw. I'm so glad I didn't see the toddler whom was raped by a Russian soldier. Putin arrested that soldier I head. If I had children, I don't think I would let them use the internet either. I wonder if their are any good studies on letting children have free access to restricted. Maybe the study couldn't even be legally carried out?
    - KerrAvon 4y ago
      We know the downsides. https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905?lang=en https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905?lang...
    - mostertoaster 4y ago
      What is a four letter word that starts with “P”? That’s a big reason I’d guess.
      - bmacho 4y ago
        Tell her don't send pictures, don't give name/address, and don't meet people, and she's safe? (She already should have applied these rules IRL from a much younger age anyway.)
    - 4y ago